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Apple now beats Dell at RAM pricing

macbookj0e said:
That’s basically the experience I’ve had with all windows machines. HP being the worst. My current Dell work laptop’s the same and is painful to use every day.
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My experience with HP hasn't been super good either, honestly. It's seems like if you got to go Windows, unless you really need a laptop, you're better off building your own computer. Otherwise, getting a Mac or installing Ubuntu/Kubuntu on a used computer might be the best option.
 
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shloimy95 said:
Is RAM for ARM CPUs more expensive over Intel? Looking around the Dell site I see most of the other laptops have core ultra CPUs and DDR5 RAM upgrades are $100-200 a step?
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That's what I'm seeing too. Maybe Qualcomm is trying to clean up on RAM too and that it has nothing to do with Dell.
 
neuropsychguy said:
About 7 years ago I needed a new laptop. I could get a high end Dell XPS that was "better" than (spec-wise) a MacBook Pro at the time for hundreds of dollars less. It was an okay computer, but there were so many little things that were problematic on the Dell: the trackpad wasn't as good as those on Macs, keyboard was soft, it ran at 99+ degrees Celsius under light load (repasting the CPU did nothing and Dell said that was normal), the fans were loud, battery life was fine as long as usage was minimal, it never slept appropriately with the lid closed (I'd have to shut it down every time I needed to close the lid and transport it), it had a sound glitch/popping, and more.

The thing was that all these issues turned out to be "normal" for the computer. They were well documented online by users and acknowledged by Dell representatives.

Even with those issues I still liked the computer but I quickly went back to Mac and have never looked back. I have nothing against Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. I'm just not going to have one be my daily computer.
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THIS 1000%

“Well gee, I could buy a MacBook, but this PC model looks kinda similar and it’s ✨ upgradeable ✨ oooooh!

I might want more memory later, so I simply must sacrifice the quality of life benefits and polish of a Mac for that possibility! Give me a creaky plastic machine with a lower quality uncalibrated display, mushy keyboard, erratic trackpad, barely functional power management, adware-filled operating system, slower SoC etc. I don’t care, all that matters is my precious SODIMM slots! 🤪 Bumping the memory later will absolutely, definitely, 100%, without a shadow of doubt make an ancient Ryzen chip feel brand new, no way will I want a new machine anyway, nuh-uh!”

(Sorry, it grinds my gears a bit 😂)
 
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PandaPunch said:
My experience with HP hasn't been super good either, honestly. It's seems like if you got to go Windows, unless you really need a laptop, you're better off building your own computer. Otherwise, getting a Mac or installing Ubuntu/Kubuntu on a used computer might be the best option.
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I would agree that building your own Windows machine is better than purchasing a prebuilt on the desktop side. The main reason is that more often than not, the prebuilt machines from HP, Dell, Lenovo, etc. use proprietary parts (power supplies, cooling fans, etc.) or cutdown motherboards that lack features of their retail counterparts. This means that upgrade options are quite limited, and often require replacing multiple components just so the one thing you actually want to change can be upgraded. On the other hand, prebuilt systems from iBuyPower, CyberPower and MSI usually are using off the shelf components, which makes upgrades down the line easier. And with market pricing going insane right now, buying a prebuilt from Costco and cannibalizing it for my gaming rig might actually be less expensive than buying the components separately.
 
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Insane how much DDR5 costs and it is deliberate to inflate the bank accounts of the top shareholders.

Nearly all the stuff generated by AI servers is junk output that serves nothing, no economic benefit at all, especially all those fake posts, spam images and spam videos. They could cut down on all that waste and reduce the size of these mega datacenters by upping the cost so that only serious users use generative AI.

This is just criminal collusion by the mega investor class and everyone pays for it even when we don’t want to.
 
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krspkbl said:
You know things have got bad when Apple's RAM pricing looks like a steal. Expect Apple to hike prices across all of their products. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we saw them increase prices before any new product releases next year due to "market conditions".

This is gonna hit everything. Apple products. All smartphones. Gaming consoles. PCs. basically any computing device out there.

Valve not releasing prices for their new hardware makes sense. I mean it already did but even more so now. The market is so unstable.

Nvidia's next flagship consumer GPU (RTX 6090) will likely be £2500-3000 at people will be lucky to get them at that. The 5090 is currently £1900 but stock is rarely available. Most third party models are £2300-2900. So realistically you could be looking at £3000-4000 if not more. 5090's were going for £3500-4000 when they first released.

Playstation 6 will be stupid expensive as well. I'd guess starting price of £600 instead of ~£450 for the PS5.

I bought 64GB RAM for my PC for £380 a couple years ago. The price was about £220 the last time I checked until recently. Buying 64GB now would be £700+ and for my exact sticks they seem to be about £790.


Anyone wanting a Mac (or any Apple product) should probably buy one as soon as possible. I'm glad I decided to upgrade my iPhone this year. iPhone prices are only go up next year especially if Apple wants to increase RAM again to 16GB lol.

If you've got companies straight up pulling out of consumer markets and makers hiking prices then Apple is 100% going to raise prices too.

They aren't gonna absord the costs. Not a chance. Not with prices rising this much.
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The more I think about it, and the more reasons I have to buy a mbp m5 right now. Thing is, I am on mba m1 16/512 and was really waiting for the redesigned mbp with thinner design because the current design is too high thick and sharp, and digs into my palms
 
krspkbl said:
You know things have got bad when Apple's RAM pricing looks like a steal. Expect Apple to hike prices across all of their products. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we saw them increase prices before any new product releases next year due to "market conditions".

This is gonna hit everything. Apple products. All smartphones. Gaming consoles. PCs. basically any computing device out there.

Valve not releasing prices for their new hardware makes sense. I mean it already did but even more so now. The market is so unstable.

Nvidia's next flagship consumer GPU (RTX 6090) will likely be £2500-3000 at people will be lucky to get them at that. The 5090 is currently £1900 but stock is rarely available. Most third party models are £2300-2900. So realistically you could be looking at £3000-4000 if not more. 5090's were going for £3500-4000 when they first released.

Playstation 6 will be stupid expensive as well. I'd guess starting price of £600 instead of ~£450 for the PS5.

I bought 64GB RAM for my PC for £380 a couple years ago. The price was about £220 the last time I checked until recently. Buying 64GB now would be £700+ and for my exact sticks they seem to be about £790.


Anyone wanting a Mac (or any Apple product) should probably buy one as soon as possible. I'm glad I decided to upgrade my iPhone this year. iPhone prices are only go up next year especially if Apple wants to increase RAM again to 16GB lol.

If you've got companies straight up pulling out of consumer markets and makers hiking prices then Apple is 100% going to raise prices too.

They aren't gonna absord the costs. Not a chance. Not with prices rising this much.
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A world leader just talking about tariffs (even if no tariffs had ever been implemented) causes vendors to hoard components critical to their businesses, leading to marketplace shortages, inefficiencies and increased prices.
 
hagjohn said:
Saw this coming. I have new equipment to get me through till the economy gets better, hopefully.
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I expect the machinations (tariff talk, denigration of allies, etc.) by the current USA administration to cause a significant financial downturn. Hopefully our current hardware is strong enough to not require upgrading for a few years.
 
It's because AI Datacenters are buying up all the RAM. At some point Apple will be hit too, they are still simply benefiting from locked in RAM prices.

It's the same reason NVIDIA GPU's prices have skyrocketed.

AI inflates alot of things.
 
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