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And the vast majority of these active users are running the latest and greatest software from Apple across all their devices. Google?
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gressive with pyshing out yostates fir their pc /mac sofrware, at least chrome) you have to rake into account thst until s few years ago Android had allmkst no contitions about hoe
w long sw updates need to be nade ava,ab,e fir devices, so unless you had the flagship model in ant manufacturers range you where probably sol after the first year. I din't have the exact timing but i thibk this changed 2-3 years ago, when Google finnaly wised up an required at ,east 3 years of security patches for anyone to be able to lisence th google brand and the ( at thet timej)latest Android version . as for feature updates 'I'm not shore
 
I highly doubt that. I'd be more than willing to bet it's closer to 10% given how many people have more than one device and how unaffordable Apple devices are for a large percentage of the world's population. Doesn't make it any less impressive however.

Well we know there are at least 1B iPhone "users", so it is more than 10%. ( 780M ).
 
Congrats Apple. We’ll deserved.

And it’s important to note, these devices are privacy-forward devices. Without Apple, we would live in a world where Zuck and China and Korea and faceless data brokers and Google would know everything about everyone.
Lol! That’s funny. I’m guessing you don’t have a Facebook or Instagram account?
 
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I highly doubt that. I'd be more than willing to bet it's closer to 10% given how many people have more than one device and how unaffordable Apple devices are for a large percentage of the world's population. Doesn't make it any less impressive however.
I agree
It would be important the number of ACTIVE UNIQUE users with a UNIQUE credit card attached. This is the real number of customers Apple has (including principal incomes of a family). It might be around 4-500Million not more.
Anyway a good ballpark to have services. If you convince one out of four-five to get AppleTV+ you beat Disney in a second...
 
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Congrats Apple. We’ll deserved.

And it’s important to note, these devices are privacy-forward devices. Without Apple, we would live in a world where Zuck and China and Korea and faceless data brokers and Google would know everything about everyone.
Nah, every time I encounter that rubbish dialog:

“Ask not to allow”
“Allow”

I know that the whole privacy thing is just another marketing ploy. Yea, I feel safer with Apple but I don’t think they are as innocent as people want to believe.
 
Device != users , foe exsample I've got 4 decices an mbp, iphon , Ipad and an appletv 4k. Ok this is probably well above the aversge device count / apple user, but it kind of illustrates my point
You only prove that you cannot spell. Also, Jerry rig everything confirmed, we don’t own the devices, apple owns them.
 
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Nah, every time I encounter that rubbish dialog:

“Ask not to allow”
“Allow”

I know that the whole privacy thing is just another marketing ploy. Yea, I feel safer with Apple but I don’t think they are as innocent as people want to believe.
It just means apple know everything and sells our data. Good job.
 
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Congrats Apple. We’ll deserved.

And it’s important to note, these devices are privacy-forward devices. Without Apple, we would live in a world where Zuck and China and Korea and faceless data brokers and Google would know everything about everyone.
I think you meant "these devices are marketed as privacy-forward devices." Because with Apple, we still live in a world where Zuck, China, Korea, and faceless data brokers and Google still know everything about everyone. That everyone includes Apple device owning individuals. Apple's marketing doesn't change that. That's more important to note dontcha think.;)
 
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Lest us not forget tho that when it comes to PC market share, the PC still wins with it's 6 Billion+ PCs
in landfills and garages (unplugged). /s (but true!) we need a /smart-ass tag!

So Apple can forget about PC market share, we won't be able to catch um, boys. And I know there are probably 50-100 Million iOS & macOS devices that have been "scrapped" but, seriously 5-6 Billion PCs (a guesstimate) in landfills and recycle center shelves (along with millions of DVD players and VCRs)?

I honestly think "Market Share" needs to be reset to 2012.0++ it's such joke terminology, i.e. only 10 years back.

n.b. and lets not forget every office that has 1 PC per person just sitting on a desk unused, oh and half of every hospital "practically" has a PC in room, but see that's another Market Share "misclassification."

If we could it would be nice to have (but it's too late):
Business/Government Market Share versus Home Market Share, but it's blurred too much.

But progress is progress!
 
Congrats Apple. We’ll deserved.

And it’s important to note, these devices are privacy-forward devices. Without Apple, we would live in a world where Zuck and China and Korea and faceless data brokers and Google would know everything about everyone.
You've never heard of CSAM, huh?
 
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Others have speculated in the past. From memory:

1 billion iPhones
400 million iPads
100 million Macs
100 million Apple Watches
100 million AirPods

Those are the big ones. And the rest would be AppleTV, HomePods, etc.

Of course this is just an estimation... but I can see it.

:)
4 times as many iPads as Macs? That doesn't sound right.

This chart shows a vague breakdown of sales, and although it's quite hard to tell, I'm not seeing a 4:1 ratio. If anything, I'm seeing more Macs than iPads.
 
Every OS has a few bugs. The way Apple quickly addresses those problems, and provides day one access to those updates to every supported device.... it is industry leading.
I actually laughed out loud at your hilarious joke. I searched hard for sarcasm, but you are dead set deadpan if so.
 
Device != users , foe exsample I've got 4 decices an mbp, iphon , Ipad and an appletv 4k. Ok this is probably well above the aversge device count / apple user, but it kind of illustrates my point
Well, not all iPhone users would have another device, but it would be damn close to all Mac and iPad and Apple Watch users would have at least an iPhone. And if we are also counting things like EarPods and so on, then...
 
4 times as many iPads as Macs? That doesn't sound right.

This chart shows a vague breakdown of sales, and although it's quite hard to tell, I'm not seeing a 4:1 ratio. If anything, I'm seeing more Macs than iPads.
That chart is based on dollars revenue. Macs are more expensive so you can sell FAR fewer Macs and show more revenue than iPads, which is what the chart shows. In order to get the unit numbers (since Apple doesn’t report those anymore) we look to the analysts that examine the supply chain and elsewhere looking for data. They show that the iPad sells significantly better than the Mac, so 4 times as many active iPads (especially when Macs are increasing at most 20-30 million a year) is not far fetched.

Since 2011 - 2020, the lowest unit sales for the iPad per year is was still over 30 million. In the same time frame, the HIGHEST unit sales of Macs was 20.4 million. The average iPad unit sales over that time was 55 million per year.
 
Others have speculated in the past. From memory:

1 billion iPhones
400 million iPads
100 million Macs
100 million Apple Watches
100 million AirPods

Those are the big ones. And the rest would be AppleTV, HomePods, etc.

Of course this is just an estimation... but I can see it.

:)
That doesn’t look right given that Apple derives more income from Mac than iPad.
 
4 times as many iPads as Macs? That doesn't sound right.

This chart shows a vague breakdown of sales, and although it's quite hard to tell, I'm not seeing a 4:1 ratio. If anything, I'm seeing more Macs than iPads.

This article is talking about 1.8 billion active Apple devices. It's also known as "installed base"

In other words... it's the number of Apple devices out in the world right now in people's hands.

However... the chart you linked is talking about last quarter's sales... or the devices Apple sold in the last three months.

Those are very different measurements.

Apple says there are over a billion iPhones out in the world. Do you believe them? Again... that's the installed base... not last quarter's sales.

And here's where I got the 400 million iPads number:


"So the true measure of success is not units sold but number of active (and satisfied) users. The iPad user base is probably around 400 million (about 27% of total active Apple devices.) The degree of activity is also telling and is reflected in the million apps built specifically for the platform."

Horace Dediu is a respected analyst. I have no reason to doubt him.

It's also been said that there are around 100 million Macs in use today. Again... that's the installed base.

So now you see where I got the information in my previous comment.

1 billion iPhones
400 million iPads
100 million Macs

That all sounds plausible to me. But I'm open to hearing your estimations...

:)
 
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With 20+ Apple devices in our home not including services, I wonder what the average Apple household # is. I’m sure we are way above the average. Given 1.8 billion devices, the number of households will be smaller.
That doesn’t look right given that Apple derives more income from Mac than iPad.
Some iPads cost more than Macs depending on configurations.
 
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