Apple has removed the displays from their Swiss online Store - I suppose they've decided that we aren't good enough for them after they've already been screwing us over with MBP pricing.,
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Apple Now Selling LG's UltraFine 5K Display, Extends $974 Sale Price Until March 31
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"Steve never allowed anything ugly" is the straw man version of what he said, meaning not what he actually said. Steve made mistakes and didn't have impeccable taste, but with the exception of, say, brushed metal and an overabundance of skeuomorphism, he was usually pretty good at spotting obvious eyesores and getting rid of them before they made it into shipping products. LG's a different story, though.
I just have: they have no information why it's gone and whether it will become available again (the sales person said it's highly unlikely, though). They've also removed the 4K version.
Cool maybe if we pray hard enough he will come back and give you all what you want. Read what I was quoting, they were talking about Steve only making things that looked good. Everyone has forgotten the products before aluminum I suppose.
Steve jobs was just a man
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So I have a hypothesis. I am likely wrong but here it goes anyway as some brain candy.
Perhaps Apple is not coming out with their own cinema display at this time, because they want to make something thinner. Hey, that's not a far stretch given Apple's propensity for thinnest. Maybe it's even a redesigned Cinema display to coincide with a greater number of Mac products that support Thunderbolt 3. They may be waiting (on Intel) for the new Mac Pro chipsets that support TB3, redesigning a new MacBook, etc. So in the meantime, they announce that the LG screen works great and they help out a partner.
They may very well have the cinema display designed and working BUT... they don't want to distract from a new iMac that's coming. One that doesn't have the "bulge" in the back, but is perfectly thin. So thin, you can't put standard I/O on it, but need to use just TB3 over USB-C.
Now we may want to also relish in the idea that this screen would have it's own graphics processor. Again, I think that thinness would be an issue for Apple. But I believe Apple is heading towards a future of embedded, connected machines. Take a look at the TouchBar which is really a microcomputer that performs a specific function but being controlled by another machine. Same with HomeKit, iPhones, S2, W1, even the video adapters for iOS which contain embedded computers. Apple is designing micro-computers to handle specific tasks. In this scenario... what if the new cinema display embedded an A11 and could be used as a standalone Apple TV sort of device, overlaying content on top of laptop output if needed? It could be completely controlled by the computer, but yet handle all media decoding and playback. Taking that a step further, what if it was an iteration of iOS that performed touch functions?
Anyway, this is all a crazy pipe dream level fantasy perhaps. But I think the idea of specific-use, connected computing is what Apple is driving towards. I think the idea of lower powered, ultra-mobile devices that can connect with other devices to increase performance would be pretty dang awesome like the ability to plug a MacBook into a high-end iMac "display" to add storage and compute would be interesting.
But there I go again...
Perhaps Apple is not coming out with their own cinema display at this time, because they want to make something thinner. Hey, that's not a far stretch given Apple's propensity for thinnest. Maybe it's even a redesigned Cinema display to coincide with a greater number of Mac products that support Thunderbolt 3. They may be waiting (on Intel) for the new Mac Pro chipsets that support TB3, redesigning a new MacBook, etc. So in the meantime, they announce that the LG screen works great and they help out a partner.
They may very well have the cinema display designed and working BUT... they don't want to distract from a new iMac that's coming. One that doesn't have the "bulge" in the back, but is perfectly thin. So thin, you can't put standard I/O on it, but need to use just TB3 over USB-C.
Now we may want to also relish in the idea that this screen would have it's own graphics processor. Again, I think that thinness would be an issue for Apple. But I believe Apple is heading towards a future of embedded, connected machines. Take a look at the TouchBar which is really a microcomputer that performs a specific function but being controlled by another machine. Same with HomeKit, iPhones, S2, W1, even the video adapters for iOS which contain embedded computers. Apple is designing micro-computers to handle specific tasks. In this scenario... what if the new cinema display embedded an A11 and could be used as a standalone Apple TV sort of device, overlaying content on top of laptop output if needed? It could be completely controlled by the computer, but yet handle all media decoding and playback. Taking that a step further, what if it was an iteration of iOS that performed touch functions?
Anyway, this is all a crazy pipe dream level fantasy perhaps. But I think the idea of specific-use, connected computing is what Apple is driving towards. I think the idea of lower powered, ultra-mobile devices that can connect with other devices to increase performance would be pretty dang awesome like the ability to plug a MacBook into a high-end iMac "display" to add storage and compute would be interesting.
But there I go again...
Lol you know that I'm bent out of shape how? Because of a few lines of text on a computer? Get over yourself buddy you don't have to comment on everything and prove you know everything when you don't.
You were not even the person I quoted, so who's bent out of shape, over an argument you weren't even a part of?
Apple is out of the display market. The Verge journalist Nilay Patel posted a communiqué from Apple confirming this. So you're dreaming if expecting one.
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/28/apple-out-of-display-business/
FWIW I'm enjoying a BenQ 32" 4K like I've never enjoyed sitting at a monitor before. It's down to eight hundred bucks, absolutely great. I'm running it under Yosemite over miniDP to a GTX 970 w/ 4GB VRAM. It's incomparable to the 27" monitors I have in the studio. Huge difference, 32" offers a lot of real-estate, like a big light-table, excellent viewing angle, I'm sitting very close to the screen, it's almost exercise to move my whole body to go look at something in the upper right hand corner, and at native rez all the fonts are small but perfectly legible. With e.g. 4 Browser sessions and many document windows open, it's a total mind magnet. And Logic X is at last SO nice to work with at that resolution (3840x2160).
These big screens work well tilted like a drafting table. I still have a Sony 1080p 24" all-in-one with multi-touch, I wasn't "getting it" when it stood near vertical, but once I laid it down 30degrees from flat, and that was a revelation. All those SciFi movies show people swiping virtual docs on vertical screens. But that can't be a long term work posture, pain in the neck, the more natural position is "poring over" something, more like at a drafting table. It requires some desk redesign. And for all the aesthetics Apple can deliver (to the privileged), I think they're overdue for a big multi-touch screen .
These big screens work well tilted like a drafting table. I still have a Sony 1080p 24" all-in-one with multi-touch, I wasn't "getting it" when it stood near vertical, but once I laid it down 30degrees from flat, and that was a revelation. All those SciFi movies show people swiping virtual docs on vertical screens. But that can't be a long term work posture, pain in the neck, the more natural position is "poring over" something, more like at a drafting table. It requires some desk redesign. And for all the aesthetics Apple can deliver (to the privileged), I think they're overdue for a big multi-touch screen .
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Wrong. It can be frustrating having people trying to correct your every word, but you aren't worth it to me. Troll someone else because it's not working here. Peace
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Sorry. I didn't mean to sound like I was correcting your every word. I just think that discussions work better when people resist mischaracterizing other people's arguments. For example, if someone says that Steve Jobs would never have approved of the LG display's fivehead, that doesn't mean he believes that Jobs never made any bad choices, just that the fivehead is the sort of detail that Jobs probably would have rejected for aesthetic reasons. On the other hand, since the LG isn't an Apple product, I think it's safe to conclude that it could have ended up with the fivehead even if Jobs was still around.
This is a silly thing to argue about anyway.
Ok dude again you don't need to teach me anything. I'm good on lessons. They were obviously talking like Steve Jobs never made anything ugly because he paid so much attention to detail. That is not the same as saying "For example, if someone says that Steve Jobs would never have approved of the LG display's fivehead".
It's indeed silly to argue about but it's obvious to me that you need to have the last word in.
I was offering you an olive branch to let it drop, and instead you doubled down on mischaracterizing people’s comments in order to make them easier to attack. The guy’s actual words were —
— which you then deliberately mischaracterized as:
No, that’s not what he was claiming, you do need to be taught, and you’re not good on lessons. You don’t get to extrapolate what you think he meant.
Had enough? If you reply “Yes” I’ll drop it and let you “have the last word in.”
I'd advise owners of the 2016 MacBook Pro 13" to hold off on buying this monitor. There appears to be an unresolved issue between the new Iris graphics system and the monitor, such that connecting the monitor causes the monitor and MacBook displays to flicker on and off until the GPU causes the MacBook to crash. Apple Support is looking into the issue.
Configuration:
MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2016, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports)
2.9 GHz Intel Core i5
16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3
Intel Iris Graphics 550 1536 MB
MacOS Sierra 10.12.2 (16C68)
Connected via USB-C cable supplied with the monitor.
Configuration:
MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2016, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports)
2.9 GHz Intel Core i5
16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3
Intel Iris Graphics 550 1536 MB
MacOS Sierra 10.12.2 (16C68)
Connected via USB-C cable supplied with the monitor.