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Nope, unfortunately. AT&T's pay as you go service is not supported on the iPhone. There is a MVNO on AT&Ts network called H20 wireless which specializes in pay as you go and month to month, but you're not going to get 3G data. You're also going to want to check on the wireless coverage in the area you're going to be as GSM coverage can be rather spotty with a lot of places just getting 3G service late last year.

I will be in NYC so AT&T coverage won't be a problem. Are you saying that people in NYC have no option but to stick with AT&T if they want to use a GSM iPhone on 3G, even after expiry of their contract?

So much for competition.
 
Good for you guys. Us up here in Canada have had them for a while.

But I still went with a contract. $250 versus $800+ just wasn't a good move for me. But it does suck when I travel abroad.

I wonder how many Canadians bother paying full price for an unlocked phone since the GSM carrier monopoly is similar to the US.
 
According to Wikipedia there are a number of MVNO in the US using the AT&T network:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_MVNO

Doing a thorough comparison of their offers and prices takes some time (but any consumer-oriented publication might do this for their readers, eg, let macrumors do this, I am sure it would be greatly appreciated).

Most of those are special purpose and/or locked though.


As someone who bought an unlocked iPhone in Germany two years ago and would never go back: What many people fail to notice is that the fact that you can equip an unlocked phone with any prepaid card you choose leads to increased competition. In the Us you don't get that, because the incompatible standards lock you in, no matter what. Maybe the iPhone 5 will remedy that, and then you would profit from carriers who actually have to work for their customers.

The situation is what it is for at least a couple more years until LTE over voice becomes standard. With 60+% of the market (and most of the carriers who actually invest in their networks) being CDMA there is no real option for this currently. To be honest, I think AT&T's exclusive iPhone deal with cingular in the states killed most of the prospects for a strong US GSM network. The competition had no incentive to switch.
 
Again, NOT true... Cincinnati Bell. They are Ohio-based (obviously the city of cincinnati) but they use AT&T towers anywhere outside the city (so you actually get good coverage nation-wide).... well same as AT&T coverage.

looks like you missed the keyword in my post. MICRO-SIM.

it doesn't matter if an MVNO (h20, c bell etc) is using at&t tower, they are using regular/standard size SIM cards, not MICRO-SIM. that's why you must get your service from at&t (at least in the USA) whether your iphone is locked or not.

can you tell me which provider use micro-sim cards in the US?
 
looks like you missed the keyword in my post. MICRO-SIM.

it doesn't matter if an MVNO (h20, c bell etc) is using at&t tower, they are using regular/standard size SIM cards, not MICRO-SIM. that's why you must get your service from at&t (at least in the USA) whether your iphone is locked or not.

can you tell me which provider use micro-sim cards in the US?

cut a regular size sim down to a microsim size and pop in your iphone. it's not difficult.
 
T-Mobile

If I wanted to use an unlocked iPhone on t-mobile for just calls and texts, could I do it? I know I would have to cut down the micro-sim card and if I wanted data it would only be able to use edge, but I have wifi everywhere, just want my phone to have everything all-in-one.
 
If I wanted to use an unlocked iPhone on t-mobile for just calls and texts, could I do it? I know I would have to cut down the micro-sim card and if I wanted data it would only be able to use edge, but I have wifi everywhere, just want my phone to have everything all-in-one.

yes, that would work.
 
I wonder how many Canadians bother paying full price for an unlocked phone since the GSM carrier monopoly is similar to the US.

Actually, it's a lot better here in Canada now. True, Rogers and Fido are the only GSM (Edge) providers (though they are the same company), but Bell and Telus rolled out their 3G HSPA network about 2 years ago making the iPhone compatible with just about every carrier in Canada.

In Canada, you can buy an unlocked iPhone and use it on:
Rogers
Bell
Telus
Fido
Koodo
Virgin Mobile

With Telus, Koodo and Rogers, you can use the iPhone on prepaid with their prepaid data plans.

I'm looking at picking up an unlocked iPhone 5 and switching to Koodo later this year.
 
Surely more:

United Kingdom
Germany
Italy
Poland
France
Romania
Turkey
Spain
Ukraine
Russia

So 10 from my counting.

Russian and Ukraine are in Eastern europe, but but part of the EU.

This all depends on whether you take the population of the City of New York (8 million) or the combined urban area (18 million).

New York State.

I should have clarified and used US state population since the EU is a growing membership of countries. My point is that it's not a valid comparison in surveys using the statistical term "average." I love how Europeans use the entire EU membership as a group to criticize one sole country, USA.

Its not a sole country, its 50 of them in a political union.


Not quite. You have to remember that is $650 PLUS tax. £510 here is already including tax.

Roughly $700 after taxes +/- $25.


I will be in NYC so AT&T coverage won't be a problem. Are you saying that people in NYC have no option but to stick with AT&T if they want to use a GSM iPhone on 3G, even after expiry of their contract?

So much for competition.

Yeah pretty much.
 
Now it would be nice if we could factory unlock old AT&T iPhones who have fulfilled their contract.
 
Is there a reason they are not selling the 3GS unlocked? It would alleviate the microSIM issue, and would be the first choice for people who want an iPhone that is the most compatible abroad.

Whats the microsim issue? They're everywhere aren't they?
 
my boss must be crying inside

My boss last month spent $2,000 on white and black unlocked iphones he bought on ebay. He must feel crunchy...haha
 
Finally! Now to wait for the iPhone 5 and purchase my first factory unlocked iPhone. w00t! :)
 
Geez, do unlocked phones usually cost this much?

Just to be one of the (many) indignant brits :p, the $750 32Gb costs equivalent $1015 in the UK. (naturally I know US prices are shown without sales tax)

The USA has it goooood :)
 
I don't see how this helps people like me who never travel outside of the US. What are the advantages of an unlocked phone if I never leave my coverage area? :confused:
 
I don't see how this helps people like me who never travel outside of the US. What are the advantages of an unlocked phone if I never leave my coverage area? :confused:

that's the problem. there is zero competition in the USA. Either AT&T or TMobile, but then again AT&T is trying to buy them. So that would eliminate that real quick also.
 
I don't see how this helps people like me who never travel outside of the US. What are the advantages of an unlocked phone if I never leave my coverage area? :confused:

There aren't. It's mostly for those who travel a lot and want to switch sim cards and use on different carriers or use on carriers in the US that do not offer iPhone in a contract, if there are any.
 
I haven't read through the whole thread, but why in the world would someone in the US care about getting an unlocked iphone with a microsim? Even if you don't want a contract, you'll still be paying the same monthly fee as someone on a contract, and if you sign up for the contract you get the phone at the much lower price. Plus the ETF is less than the difference between the unlocked phone price and the locked phone price. So the unlocked phone does not make sense to me. Can't even take it to Europe and get a sim there because of the microsim. So I don't get it, at least for US customers.
 
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