From the specification, it also contains an ADC (Analog-to-Digital Converter). I am not aware of any affordable adapter that also includes this feature. However, I am confident that you can provide me with one.You make it sound like they put a cold fusion power plant in there.
All adapters of this kind, even the $4 ones have a DAC inside, apple put some more circuits, nothing special, nothing remotely justifying the price.
They mentioned in the press one use is for airline seats, the jacks are female. This has to a very frequently requested feature.Why is the 3.5 male? Id expect it to be female to use without another damn adapter. We plug these adapters in once not twice.
I can find a few on Taobao / Tmall, they are like $3 to $8 USD. Not sure how much more internationally, but it is not 40 dollars. Though one can say the Apple one will likely have more than decent audio quality, the circuitry being done right etc.From the specification, it also contains an ADC (Analog-to-Digital Converter). I am not aware of any affordable adapter that also includes this feature. However, I am confident that you can provide me with one.
You make it sound like they put a cold fusion power plant in there.
All adapters of this kind, even the $4 ones have a DAC inside, apple put some more circuits, nothing special, nothing remotely justifying the price.
Do you mean the DAC. This one has also additional a ADC in it. And for less that $4 I can only find the nacked ADC Chip.You are correct. The quality of the Apple ADC differentiates it from the cheaper offerings—or it did in the past.
The majority of microphones I have observed also feature a male 3.5mm adapter, necessitating a female-to-female adapter. Nevertheless, there is no reason why not to use a female-to-female adapter. I am also using an ADC for video conferences, but my ADC is slightly more sophisticated.Can this be used to bring in audio to a iPhone for a zoom meeting? (bi-directional)
The Beats Solo 4, Studio Pro, and some B&W models feature a dedicated 3.5mm Input port. In analog mode, these devices do not require power. However, the use of this adapter necessitates power for the DAC and amplifier in the Max.wait… is there not one of these included with the newer models with a USB-C port?
may be there is digital to analog audio conversion tech in these cables ?My thoughts exactly.
Yes. And a ADC. So you can hook up your iPhone to the AUX of your car Stereo.may be there is digital to analog audio conversion tech in these cables ?
Most people complaining about the price probably think this is just a cable.Yes, you seem to be the only one here who knows that this is not just a piece of wire. A quality AD and DA converter for only $40. is not a bad deal at all. It is not just the two converts in the cable but they managed to fit a small CPU, memory and power conversion.
Things always seem "easy" when you don't know how it works. This is actually some impressive engineering.
and the quality of all the DACs is the same ?You make it sound like they put a cold fusion power plant in there.
All adapters of this kind, even the $4 ones have a DAC inside, apple put some more circuits, nothing special, nothing remotely justifying the price.
To people that care about sound quality, there’s most certainly a measurable difference. Most people don’t really care about sound quality so, for them the value isn’t worth the cost.You make it sound like they put a cold fusion power plant in there.
All adapters of this kind, even the $4 ones have a DAC inside, apple put some more circuits, nothing special, nothing remotely justifying the price.
It still does, they don’t even have to change it. The rest of the industry knows that most folks don’t value high quality sound, they’re just glad to have their eardrums vibrate. So, literally no one is trying to improve the quality of the ones they produce cheaper, even though they absolutely could.You are correct. The quality of the Apple ADC differentiates it from the cheaper offerings—or it did in the past.
No, they were sold as wireless headphones.wait… is there not one of these included with the newer models with a USB-C port?
Most people complaining about the price just want to see their words on a screen.Most people complaining about the price probably think this is just a cable.
I’m moreso referring to a USB-C to 3.5 adapter, like how the previous phones (for a while) had the Lightning to 3.5The Beats Solo 4, Studio Pro, and some B&W models feature a dedicated 3.5mm Input port. In analog mode, these devices do not require power. However, the use of this adapter necessitates power for the DAC and amplifier in the Max.
He may still need an active mic that provides line level audio, for the Apple cable being this small it is unlikely there is any ampilification.The majority of microphones I have observed also feature a male 3.5mm adapter, necessitating a female-to-female adapter. Nevertheless, there is no reason why not to use a female-to-female adapter. I am also using an ADC for video conferences, but my ADC is slightly more sophisticated.
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When the phones switched to USB-C, or perhaps even earlier with the iPads losing 3.5mm, Apple begin selling a USB-C version of that Lightning adaptor that you are thinking, it is like 9 bucks, has DAC inside, and is one-way.I’m moreso referring to a USB-C to 3.5 adapter, like how the previous phones (for a while) had the Lightning to 3.5
did Apple stop including an adapter all together, or is this simply a special adapter?
A lot of the iPhone, iPad and Mac-using public aren't sophisticated in the matter of audio equipment, and would have to look up what DAC and an ADC are. Many people basically want something that lets their headphones receive audio signals from their computer, iPhone, iPad or plane seat connector, and may not know about lower vs. higher end adapter differences. And they may be wary of being upsold very expensive 'premium' quality cables that offer them no substantial end user benefit...which I believe Monster Inc. got a reputation for doing, and another poster already mentioned them.This device comprises a DAC and an ADC. Why is it so challenging to comprehend its functionality?
Yes, and many in the public wouldn't know the difference. I went to Apple's overview of the product, which says:Most people complaining about the price probably think this is just a cable.
Is the quality difference something the average Joe would easily notice, or something mainly audiophiles would pick up on (e.g.: like the people who praise vinyl over compressed digital music format)?A quality AD and DA converter for only $40. is not a bad deal at all.
I hadn't thought about the bidirectional bit before. This should help people decide whether the cost is worth it to them.That one is male USB-C to female 3.5mm and only goes one direction. This one is male USB-C to male 3.5mm, bidirectional. And it's that last part what makes it so expensive.
It is weird if using analog sources. But still I’m sure owners appreciate the functionality added.Wired input on these headphones always seemed weird to me, since it must undergo two conversions.