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● Wall Street is Dumb !
● CNBC should change their name to "Wall Street for Dummies" !

How they both keep missing the obvious is Extremely Puzzling !

NOT Rocket Science:

Actual iPhone Revenue = $55.957B (reported) - ~$4B = ~$52B USD !

So, what does this mean ?

ZERO Q1 iPhone Revenue Growth !

$52B is the exact same as Q1 FY2019 !
 
How is it that when Apple moves a couple of per cent the media call it a jump or a surge. It’s barely anything. When a stock like Netflix on occasion jumps 10 per cent, now that’s a surge.
Because a 3% bump in aapl is almost $50B in value or 1/3 of all of NFLX. Apple was also up the day before, so it's like 6% in 2 days, or almost $100B. Apple has been surging because it's basically up every day.
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Apples lowest quality, most uninspired products up to date, yet their highest financial performance. To me that's the perfect proof of how ****ed up todays economy is...
Or you're just wrong.
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Carl Icahn probably still says Apple's undervalued.

Just thinking, if aapl managed to reach brk-a price (339,260 at the time that I'm writing this), Apple would have a market cap of ~1487.28 trillion. I doubt that'll happen in my lifetime, though.

In the meantime, Tim, if you're reading this, I could take a few of this billions of dollars off your hands. ;)
Icahn sold his shares several years ago at $90 and I laughed at him then. He's just trying to sound smart now but he was dead wrong on AAPL.
 
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wasn't Apple worth just $1T last year? Where did the $400B come from?
I have a feeling this is just a bubble by investors that will collapse. Both Google and Microsoft that has much bigger market share and product offerings are not bigger than Apple, something is not right here.

Apple had a considerably higher net income than either company in 2019. Apple's sales/revenue for 2019 was nearly equal to the combined revenue of Alphabet (Google) and Microsoft. When looking at the last five years. Apple's net income was more than the combined net income of Alphabet and Microsoft.

It's not about how much of the market you own but who your customers are. Apple doesn't dominate the market in total. They dominate the market of top spenders.
 
It is an impressive / interesting fact and Apple should be congratulated. It is, however a little sad and an indictment of the capitalist world. When you think of some of the incredible businesses on the DAX [and elsewhere] that make / provide fantastic technologies [that make what Apple deoes actually possible], businesses that produce medical treatments and apparatus for the good of mankind etc that only get measured by how rich they make their shareholders.
 
It is an impressive / interesting fact and Apple should be congratulated. It is, however a little sad and an indictment of the capitalist world. When you think of some of the incredible businesses on the DAX [and elsewhere] that make / provide fantastic technologies [that make what Apple deoes actually possible], businesses that produce medical treatments and apparatus for the good of mankind etc that only get measured by how rich they make their shareholders.

That’s my honest takeaway also..

Additionally, we need some bloody reform on the tax situation.

I realize Apple (and others) are just “playing by the rules” with all the loopholes, but it’s pretty shameful how a company can, by the rules, be this much of a world dominating cash machine and yet pay so little in taxes.

I also think some anti-trust angles should come into play with a few areas in their eco-system.

I’m exhausted with Apple and other large Tech co’s swallowing up anything that even hints at being a small insect of competition anywhere on their gargantuan “body” of world domination.

The whole package is totally stifling actually interesting and needed technical innovation and progress.
 
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GDP has grown every year for the past 10 years

Well that’s demonstrably not true.

 
When Apple produces their best ever MacBook Pro, Mac Pro, iMac, MacBook Air, Mac mini; best ever iPhones: 11, 11 Pro, 11 Pro Max; best ever iPads: mini 5, iPad 10.2”, iPad Air 3, iPad Pro 11/12.9”; best ever Apple Watch, AirPods, AppleTV and Pro monitor... then what you get is record-setting, all time high revenue and profits. An installed base of over 1.5 billion products.

That’s reality, for those that live in the real world.

2019 was the best ever year for Apple products. Period. 2010 and 2007 were great too but nothing like 2019 with one great product release after another. I can't name one dud from last year. I was sick of hearing Tim and his great pipeline year after year and nothing but crippled products were delivered. Was never so excited for what 2020 will bring.
 
I remember that they told us on the news recently, that the DAX is particularly high at the moment. Which makes this even more depressing.
GDP has grown every year for the past 10 years, and the DAX recently hit an all time high. During that time the unemployment rate has steadily decreased, and is lower than most of Europe and the US.

How is that a "slump"?
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So Flash support, CD-ROM drives, and headphone jacks were removed to "further profits"? Seems to me the common thread is outdated technology that takes up space (just like ports to charge and transfer data).

Good one.

All I’ll say are the following links which are easy to find, I’m afraid I can only go by reputable news sources, which are not painting a pretty picture for Germany.







I will also add I’m afraid I fail to see the relevance of a economic graph that’s 5 years out of date?
 
I am totally curious what they'll do on pricing for devices this year. Where that glass ceiling is. I'm sure Apple is testing the waters to see how far they can reach into pockets before people back away. We've already got people holding onto devices longer but it piques my interest to see where the line will be drawn for the people who still upgrade every year.
 
Only America has created Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Twitter etc, the giants of this age. There is something, or perhaps more likely a combination of somethings, that has ensured US technology business is dominating the 21st century even more than in the late 20th. Brits like me and Germans like you can only look on in wonder, and of course we can carry on buying the products!

exactly, it feels like our European companies missed the train and still can’t catch up with innovation. I can’t be mad at something like that, especially when our countries are asleep and rather stay with old stuff than trying something new
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Yes. It is so sad. Changes fonts unpredictably. Embeds files unpredictably.
I switched to Airmail for these reasons. Mail app has the faster search though.
Airmail is the 🐐
 
Because a 3% bump in aapl is almost $50B in value or 1/3 of all of NFLX. Apple was also up the day before, so it's like 6% in 2 days, or almost $100B. Apple has been surging because it's basically up every day.
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Or you're just wrong.
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No, Apple increasing the day before was only a recovery of the losses they had already made due to the virus in China. So this was literally a couple of percent increase. Regardless of what that translates to in relation to the financial size of the company it is most certainly not a jump let alone a surge. Apple fluctuates on that level all the time, and we don’t get headlines every day talking about surges. A 2 per cent increase for a stellar earnings report and future growth does not correlate and headlines talking about surges are simply headline grabbers. It’s tiresome.
 
When you think of some of the incredible businesses on the DAX [and elsewhere] that make / provide fantastic technologies

Yeah, you've never had the misfortune of using a product by Europe's largest and most profitable software company, SAP.

businesses that produce medical treatments and apparatus for the good of mankind etc that only get measured by how rich they make their shareholders.

And their employees. US companies are rich, and so are US employees. The median household income in the US is just over $63k right now. UK, France and Germany are around the $40k mark. Japan is around $30k.
 
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No, Apple increasing the day before was only a recovery of the losses they had already made due to the virus in China. So this was literally a couple of percent increase. Regardless of what that translates to in relation to the financial size of the company it is most certainly not a jump let alone a surge. Apple fluctuates on that level all the time, and we don’t get headlines every day talking about surges. A 2 per cent increase for a stellar earnings report and future growth does not correlate and headlines talking about surges are simply headline grabbers. It’s tiresome.
I just explained to you how a 3% move in Apple is a bigger deal because of its enormous size.

Additionally, this isn’t just about the last 2 days. It’s more than doubled in the last year. A 3% move in Apple in a single day is huge and the value created by that move is indeed is bigger than most companies in the S&P 500.
 
Yeah, I mean, look how ‘uninspiring’ the AirPods and Apple Watch is, totally slaughtering the market right now in terms of growth, not to mention the Apple Watch is the _only_ real competition out there, with Fitbit at a dead end (And being acquired from Google). But it must be true what one member says on Macrumors to determine for the million(s) of other people that support Apple products every day. That’s why comments like yours have no real credibility when you interject some form of personal vendetta against Apple.
For me the Apple Watch S5 cellular is the most "inspired" product produced to date and a close second is the Denon DL-110 Moving Coil Cartridge.
 
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How is it that when Apple moves a couple of per cent the media call it a jump or a surge. It’s barely anything. When a stock like Netflix on occasion jumps 10 per cent, now that’s a surge.
2% of Apple is worth approx. 50% of Netflix. It's a newsworthy number.
EDIT: Sorry, 20%. Updated with current prices.
 
All I’ll say are the following links which are easy to find, I’m afraid I can only go by reputable news sources, which are not painting a pretty picture for Germany.







I will also add I’m afraid I fail to see the relevance of a economic graph that’s 5 years out of date?
As the latest news says, Germany has avoided a recession. A looming recession, or a recession that has been avoided, means the country is not (yet, anyway) in a slump.

The graph I posted was not 5 years out of date, the labels are placed to the right of the divisions. The 10 year graph is easier to read. The DAX is just coming off an all-time high. It was almost at these levels 2 years ago.

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