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Does anyone know what method Google uses to calculate P/E? (Trailing, Future)

You can find both trailing and forward P/E for all stocks. They aren't calculated by the companies.

AAPL: 35/29
GOOG: 32/20

Isn't market cap the final calculation?

I mean the fluctuations you mention in the stocks above ultimately reflect the market cap no?

Market cap is the market value of all shares (number of shares x price).
 
How much money did Apple have at the time the Dell CEO made that statement?

Apple was worth $2.2 billion when Michael Dell uttered that quote (it's now worth 71 times that!). The state of Apple then and state of Dell on August 13, 2008 is so far apart, it's mind-boggling.


:eek: you're kidding

Amazing, isn't it?

Imagine if it hadn't been broken up those many years ago...
 
Last I saw -- 16% market share was within site -- before you flame ... I'll try to confirm --- it might of been a mix up in my research (it was very late)

EDIT: --- my mistake -- I read it wrong --- late night --- it was that Apple's market share had increased 16% -- best
 
oohhhh, I hate you.

;)

I bought mine at $33 in 1984, two splits ago (net adjusted price is $8.25).

At least Apple, unlike google, actually produces a product, does R&D, and contributes something rather than just sucking up other peoples work and selling advertising.

There's a single product that could kill the entire Google business model: AdBlock. If it ever gets widespread adoption, watch that stock crash.
 
Apple was worth $2.2 billion when Michael Dell uttered that quote (it's now worth 71 times that!). The state of Apple then and state of Dell on August 13, 2008 is so far apart, it's mind-boggling.

But the question was, "how much money did Apple have then?" not AAPL's market cap. The answer is about $1.2 billion in cash. Yes, at the time more than 50% of AAPL's share value was represented by cash. The market was at that time valuing everything else Apple owned and their entire business at about $1 billion. That was a mind-boggling concept, which is why I bought AAPL in 1997.

Split-adjusted basis around $5.00 a share, since we seem to be showing off. :)
 
*yawn*

some less than stellar earnings or sales numbers slowing will deflate that market cap. I've seen companies with cash on hand with no debt with market caps smaller than their bank balance.

market cap can tell you some things, but it is almost quite meaningless. Its whatever people collectively value the company at a given time.

It has very little to do with gross margins or profit, which are probably more important.
 
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This will shut up all the naysayers. I don't think we'll see many CEOs making stupid comments in the future.
 
*yawn*

some less than stellar earnings or sales numbers slowing will deflate that market cap. I've seen companies with cash on hand with no debt with market caps smaller than their bank balance.

market cap can tell you some things, but it is almost quite meaningless. Its whatever people collectively value the company at a given time.

It has very little to do with gross margins or profit, which are probably more important.

well ... from a valuation stand point -- YES --- the earnings are what determine if a company will stay at it's level.

BUT efficient market hypothesis suggests that price (which is a reflection of market cap) reflects that true value -- since value is a matter of perception and agreement by buyer and seller :)
 
That is freakin' amazing.

Just think...
You start a business and roughly 25 years later it's worth $157 BILLION!!!!
That's gotta give a satisfying feeling :rolleyes:
 
Its whatever people collectively value the company at a given time.

It is what it is. Investors don't bid up the value of stocks over time without the company showing earnings growth to support it.

I was thinking more in terms of its market cap ranking versus these other companies. Maybe I'll go crunch some numbers...

Ah. I am dimly recalling that AAPL passed IBM in that timeframe.
 
But the question was, "how much money did Apple have then?" not AAPL's market cap. The answer is about $1.2 billion in cash. Yes, at the time more than 50% of AAPL's share value was represented by cash. The market was at that time valuing everything else Apple owned and their entire business at about $1 billion. That was a mind-boggling concept, which is why I bought AAPL in 1997.

Split-adjusted basis around $5.00 a share, since we seem to be showing off. :)

Sick I tell you... Sick.
 
I love the quote of Michael Dell... I know he wishes he didn't say that!

While this is great... Won't it really be a great news story in 3 years or so when Apple is worth more than Microsoft? :D
 
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