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Originally posted by smegdude
what the court should have done to really punish m$ is let the schools only buy apple or other companies products which don't use m$ programs, if done this way then m$ is loosing out and the monopoly is getting less powerfull.
It creates a more competitive market and benifits the companies who were damaged by m$. Then hopefully in the future m$ will think before they try to break the law again.

2 of the best programs for Mac OS X are MS products:

Office v.X and IE

Sorry guys, but we still need MS. Office is the standard. OO or StarOffice will not change that. IE might get replaced by Safari, but not yet (functionality wise).

For Apple to compete, the need a true XML based office suite that is fully compatible with other paltforms (win, *nix, *bsd etx) that works as well as iPhoto. If that happens, Apple is in the money again. If not, they stay on the fringes trying to survive on the crumbs of the industry.

I say XML because MS Office is headed towards that direction, although who know how XML# or whatever they use will work...
 
Originally posted by yzedf


2 of the best programs for Mac OS X are MS products:

Office v.X and IE

Sorry guys, but we still need MS. Office is the standard. OO or StarOffice will not change that. IE might get replaced by Safari, but not yet (functionality wise).

Microsoft Office files can be incompatible between platforms - the most recent example I heard of was an M$ Word document between Windows 2000/Office XP and Windows XP/Office XP. This is not a standard by any means, when M$ Office files from different Windows versions fail to open on the same version of Office. Microsoft IE is junk compared to Mozilla and Opera. When I first started OS X, my first deletion was of all Microsoft software. My Apple computer is a Microsoft-free zone, and I intend to keep it that way. The real Office standard is promoted by Sun and OpenOffice.org, not Microsoft. I use StarOffice, OpenOffice.org, KOffice, AppleWorks, and various text editors. If I am given an M$ Office document that won't open, I send it back and tell the Induhvidual which sent it that the file is corrupt. If the file does open through conversion, I still send back a complaint and push for the use of non-Microsoft formats. We have to be firm when dealing with the problem of Microsoft files being accepted as standard. When Apple users have to spend $500 for M$ Office or $370 per individual component for the purpose of compatibility with the Microsoft camp, I see this as an extortion scheme. Microsoft will continue to charge high prices because its marketers know that most people see no way to escape Microsoft's upgrade wagon and fear threats of being obsolete and incompatible with the Microsoft camp.
 
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Originally posted by smegdude
what the court should have done to really punish m$ is let the schools only buy apple or other companies products which don't use m$ programs, if done this way then m$ is loosing out and the monopoly is getting less powerfull.
It creates a more competitive market and benifits the companies who were damaged by m$. Then hopefully in the future m$ will think before they try to break the law again.

Although a nice piece of wishful thinking, it would be quite strange, unjust, and almost seem biased for such a thing to happen. I mean, a judge can't just say "BLAH BLAH BLAH, I HEREBY SENTENCE YOU TO 20 YEAR SOFTWARE SUSPENSION WITHIN THE EDUCATION MARKET BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!!" I just don't think it works like that.
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Originally posted by yzedf


2 of the best programs for Mac OS X are MS products:

Office v.X and IE

Sorry guys, but we still need MS. Office is the standard. OO or StarOffice will not change that. IE might get replaced by Safari, but not yet (functionality wise).

For Apple to compete, the need a true XML based office suite that is fully compatible with other paltforms (win, *nix, *bsd etx) that works as well as iPhoto. If that happens, Apple is in the money again. If not, they stay on the fringes trying to survive on the crumbs of the industry.

I say XML because MS Office is headed towards that direction, although who know how XML# or whatever they use will work...

Can you imagine what life is like at the Mac Business Unit in Redmond? These guys have to love Mac's... but must feel crazed by the political bullsh*t. They probably just want to make a great productivity suite, and all Microsoft corporate sees is $$.

Developers have to love what they're doing or it sucks worse than being a janitor, trust me. ;)
 
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