Steve was intimately involved in the design of the iMac. It was his first project coming back to Apple. So yes, but Macs have never used PS2; they used a proprietary thing called ADB (Apple Desktop Bus.)
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Apple Obsoletes Mid 2010 15-Inch and 17-Inch MacBook Pros
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Steve was intimately involved in the design of the iMac. It was his first project coming back to Apple. So yes, but Macs have never used PS2; they used a proprietary thing called ADB (Apple Desktop Bus.)
Eh whatever, my early 2008 MBP is still going strong. It worked great through college, so hopefully it'll get me through til b school. Putting in an SSD brought it new life.
Input on a product going to market is one thing and often the CEO will have some input there. Making the final call as to when to stop supporting a +5 year old product is a totally different deal.
If the engineers present the current benchmarks, what it would cost to continue supporting these old machines, and all the other relevant data as to why they shouldn't be supported any longer, is any CEO really going to say, "Cost be damned, we need to support something that no longer makes us any money and instead costs us big money to keep supporting!"
It's very unlikely a call the CEO is in any way involved in or really cares about. They're focused on how the new products in the pipeline are going to impact the company, not continuing to support a product they haven't sold in over 4 years. Do you think the CEO of General Motors personally decides when they stop offering replacement parts for a 1993 Cavalier?
Only in the computer industry
Can you imagine the same for appliances, cars and other things?
There are plenty of 3rd party batteries on Ebay. You might even be able to get a genuine one from Apple. What's stopping you from buying one now?I have a 15 MBP mid 2010 laying around.
Only thing I think it might need soon maybe is a battery replacement
Does this mean I can't even get that serviced or they just wont sell the battery for it to me at all ?
So... My Core i7 8GB RAM SSD machine is obsolete... Great... meanwhile they still sell 5200rpm HDD, 4GB RAM machines...
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Already happening with appliances. Needed a new motor for my washing machine about 18 months ago. It was actually cheaper to get a new washing machine. The labor costs to replace the (non user serviceable) motor was more than $250. The job basically meant dismantling it totally. Add the cost of $110 for the motor and a new machine at $400 seemed a better solution.Only in the computer industry
Next up: my mid-2012 Mac miniNext up: my mid-2012 Mac mini
Apple has updated its vintage and obsolete products list with three new products: MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2010), MacBook Pro (17-inch, Mid 2010), and Xserve (Early 2009).
The older notebooks and server rack hardware are now classified as vintage in the United States and Turkey, and obsolete in the rest of the world, according to Apple.
Macs and other products on the vintage and obsolete list are generally no longer eligible for hardware service. Apple defines vintage products as those that have not been manufactured for more than five but less than seven years ago, while obsolete products are those that were discontinued more than seven years ago.
The new additions come less than three months after Apple obsoleted select early 2008 to late 2009 Macs, including the iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2009), iMac (27-inch, Late 2009), MacBook Air (Mid 2009), Mac Pro (Early 2009), MacBook (13-inch, Early 2008), MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2008), and MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2008).
The MacBook Pro models obsoleted today were originally announced on April 13, 2010. Read how to identify your MacBook Pro model.
Article Link: Apple Obsoletes Mid 2010 15-Inch and 17-Inch MacBook Pros
Stockpiling batteries is usually not recommended as they will detoriate with age, but if you think you will need new battery within a year or so, sure a new battery now may be ok. I think however that third-parties will still provide batteries if Apple ceases to manufacture them.
I also imagine that Apple will provide service as long as you pay and their repair partners still have parts, however when parts run out it is the end.
2008 MBP 17" upped to 6GB memory chip (recognized), 500HD, 500 SSD and yes at times a little sluggish, but still works really well for what I do.
Got tired of battery usage, so I run it always with a charger.
17" RIP, but I would buy a 17" MBP retina or even larger in a minute
Now they just have to add the classic 13 inch Macboook Pro to the list. It's scandalous that they sell it at the price they do.
And I look forward to, just like last time, having to see it constantly reiterated that "obsolete" and "vintage" refer only to Apple's provision of hardware support (e.g., official out-of-warranty replacement parts). Software-wise, El Capitan supports all computer dating back to 2009 and some even as far back as 2007, and whether a computer is labeled as "obsolete" for "vintage" in terms of hardware clearly says nothing about what software Apple supports on it. (And, for that matter, just because a computer is not yet vintage or obsolete does not mean Apple will support current versions of its software on it, either.)
I guess my Mid 2010 iMac 27" is next.
I've never had any problems with it. It still runs strong.
Then keep using it. This only affects you if you need the hardware fixed out of warranty and wanted to get it done by an Apple Authorized Service Provider.
I have a 15 MBP mid 2010 laying around.
Only thing I think it might need soon maybe is a battery replacement
Does this mean I can't even get that serviced or they just wont sell the battery for it to me at all ?
It most likely means that they will stop producing the battery (they never sold it separately because they don't consider it user-replaceable) and also won't service the machine. However, you can find third-party batteries from a trusted source (e.g., OWC) or another third party. They're pretty easy to install yourself even though Apple didn't support it.
Yes, that is correct. I'm not sure what "even if I'm willing to pay" means since you'd have to pay anyway if the machine is past Apple Care, which all of these machines are old enough to have been for a while now. However, you'll likely still find third parties willing to do so for a while to come, plus there are apparently rare occasions where Apple will still work on vintage/obsolete Macs (maybe because they still have a lot of parts for some models floating around? who knows).
I imagine my 2012 MBP only has a couple years left. Doing simple tasks like using Excel are starting to get sluggish.
According to that page of Apple’s site, a vintage Mac is between 5 and 7 years old while an obsolete Mac is more than 7 years old. I’m pretty sure 2011 was when they switched for leaded solder to lead-free. So 2010 was the last year they used leaded solder. I guess they consider leaded solder to be obsolete, even though it won’t melt and short-circuit the logic board.
Apple has updated its vintage and obsolete products list with three new products: MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2010), MacBook Pro (17-inch, Mid 2010), and Xserve (Early 2009).
The older notebooks and server rack hardware are now classified as vintage in the United States and Turkey, and obsolete in the rest of the world, according to Apple.
Macs and other products on the vintage and obsolete list are generally no longer eligible for hardware service. Apple defines vintage products as those that have not been manufactured for more than five but less than seven years ago, while obsolete products are those that were discontinued more than seven years ago.
The new additions come less than three months after Apple obsoleted select early 2008 to late 2009 Macs, including the iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2009), iMac (27-inch, Late 2009), MacBook Air (Mid 2009), Mac Pro (Early 2009), MacBook (13-inch, Early 2008), MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2008), and MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2008).
The MacBook Pro models obsoleted today were originally announced on April 13, 2010. Read how to identify your MacBook Pro model.
Article Link: Apple Obsoletes Mid 2010 15-Inch and 17-Inch MacBook Pros
I'm afraid that is a myth. There is no legislation in the UK which imposes any obligation on a company to continue to supply parts for 10 years (or any other time period).
Yes! - my 2010 13" MBP lives to fight another day, but I'm surprised it wasn't on the list if the 15" and 17" were.
With 8GB of RAM and a 500GB hybrid SSD/HDD it still serves a purpose, but not much more than iTunes, Safari and Plex server. It takes about 3 minutes to fully boot though, lol. It's so well built and runs so valiantly, I've had no reason to upgrade.
With 8GB of RAM and a 500GB hybrid SSD/HDD it still serves a purpose, but not much more than iTunes, Safari and Plex server. It takes about 3 minutes to fully boot though, lol. It's so well built and runs so valiantly, I've had no reason to upgrade.
It might have a crappy GPU, but at least it takes the graphics load off the CPU and the solder won't fry the logic board when it melts.
Suprising that they didn't include the 13" Mid 2010 MacBook Pro or white unibody MacBook.. My Mid 2010 13" MBP and uMB are still nice and fast with 8GB of ram and an SSD.
I have a 2010 17" Macbook Pro and this isn't such a big deal as the Battery, RAM, Hard Disk & Optical drive are all standard parts that can easily be replaced by the end user. So short of a major failure then it is easy to keep running for a while longer.
However it WILL be a major problem for owners of later MacBook pros when it happens to those models as when the battery dies but the computer is perfectly serviceable they will have no options due to that ridiculous glued in battery that requires replacement of half the shell of the computer along with the keyboard and trackpad. I don't see third party manufacturers stepping in to fill the gap.
However it WILL be a major problem for owners of later MacBook pros when it happens to those models as when the battery dies but the computer is perfectly serviceable they will have no options due to that ridiculous glued in battery that requires replacement of half the shell of the computer along with the keyboard and trackpad. I don't see third party manufacturers stepping in to fill the gap.