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Oh look, there’s my iCloud backup! Sixth on the left, bottom shelf.
lets go take a looksee! (hack...... hack...... hack)
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LMAO ... just finished watching Bruce Linton's interview on Bloomberg (CEO of Canopy) and he mentioned Oompa loopas as part of the conversation and then getting serious with what their business is about.

Back on topic this server looks VERY clean .. similar to Apple's products.

I'm curious if hackers grew a big solid pair if they'd go the next step and try blowing up security centres to muffle with competition? Sounds crazy but is it really that far from corporate theft and espionage?
would pure sarin cripple that techno set up?
 
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The aisles are unusually wide for a data center. Is that the new design standard? I remember most data center aisles having a two-door width at most.
 
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This dude is busy staring at his desktop background picture of his BMW 1M.
Cool sandals and shorts, man.

Hilarious, great find! Think it’s an M2. 1M had a slightly different middle air intake, made it more look like a smile than the “snarl” on the M2. Also don’t believe the 1M has an “M” on the kidney grille like the M2 (and the picture) has Maybe a vacation day, the windshield says something “performance driving school”

Can’t blame the guy, I’d rather be driving it than sitting in a data center.

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At that point would it not be considered a shoe? :p
 
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Apple doesn't often allow people to visit its data centers, which are located across the country, but The Arizona Republic was recently given a tour of Apple's Mesa Arizona data center, formerly the site of GT Advanced.

The Mesa Arizona facility spans 1.3 million square feet, with long, sparse hallways equipped with servers. Apple calls the Mesa site its "global data command" center, which employs a "handful" of employees working in 10-hour shifts to oversee Apple's operations data. 150 employees total are employed at the data center.

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Servers in the Mesa, Arizona data center, via The Arizona Republic
While The Arizona Republic was provided with a tour and was allowed to take photos inside the data center, Apple "would not share many specifics about what happens inside the facility" due to security concerns.

The Mesa data center, and others like it, house data from Apple apps and services that include iMessage, Siri, and iCloud.

Apple announced plans in 2014 to repurpose the Mesa, Arizona plant where GT Advanced worked to develop sapphire glass for Apple products before filing for bankruptcy. Hundreds of GT Advanced employees were laid off when the company failed, with Apple at the time pledging to bring more jobs to the city.

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The water-cooling system for the Mesa, Arizona data center, via The Arizona Republic
Not long after, Apple confirmed that it would transform the Mesa, Arizona plant into a "command center" for Apple's global data network. It has been operational since 2016, and Apple has been renovating and adding on since then. According to The Arizona Republic, the most recent addition, several new halls of servers, was completed in April.

The Arizona Republic's photos of the data center are worth checking out for anyone interested in Apple's data operations.

Article Link: Apple Offers Rare Look Inside Mesa, Arizona Data Center

The photos are indeed worth checking out... all 2 of them, lol!!!
 
There's a larger story to this.

This plant was built for GT Advanced Technology to produce high-quality sapphire for Apple. When GT ended up not being able to deliver on the promise and collapsed, Apple decided to use the building they paid for for something.

The energy cost of a datacenter over its lifetime far exceeds the cost of a industrial building. 10 megawatts of power * $.10/kWh = $8.76 Million in power per year. And that's relatively small, Google's datacenter fleet is around 40x this.

It's about how a building is built. Take here in Australia, you can having scorching summers, but a house with a concrete slab keeps you cool in Summer and warm in Winter.

No. A typical data center generates 10s of megawatts of heat. There is no way you can store that heat in a concrete slab. If cooling is lost to a datacenter, it will overheat and shut down easily within a half hour. In a house you're trying to prevent the outside heat from getting in. In a datacenter, you need to continually dump the heat you make inside to the outside.
 
It seems the monitoring is done with Mac machines. But the pictures are not clear enough as to what the actual servers are.

Probably by design, the photographers might have been asked to not zoom in close enough for security reasons.
 
icloud saved my sanity - or what's left of it - recently after a mac crash

it's one of those insanely grate ideas that only apple could come up with
 
Gov. Doug Ducey is stopping at the data center on Wednesday to commemorate the company's latest addition. The plant was a key jobs victory for Ducey, who is seeking reelection this fall, during his first year in office.

Wow. 150 Jobs are a key jobs victory these days.
The job market in Arizona must be pretty dry.
 
I hear you. £2.49 here for enough iCloud storage to back up 2 iPhones, 1 iPad Pro, 1 iPod Touch and two Macs, including all three photo libraries going back well over a decade, also being made available and synced across all of our devices.

For the facility, the peace of mind and the convenience, £2.49 is peanuts - it wouldn’t even buy a cup of coffee a month if I wasn’t paying for iCloud storage.

sure it isn't much. Alternatively, if you're paying £1000 for your phone, Apple could include enough storage to back it up properly. Scale it with the size of the storage on the device you buy (and therefore the cost you pay). Costs them peanuts but adds a lot in perceived value.
 
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sure it isn't much. Alternatively, if you're paying £1000 for your phone, Apple could include enough storage to back it up properly. Costs them peanuts but adds a lot in perceived value.

Wonder how much cloud backup storage other platforms and makers offer? Not, sarcasm, would seriously lie to know the industry trend.
 
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Wonder how much cloud backup storage other platforms and makers offer? Not, sarcasm, would seriously lie to know the industry trend.

I think Google may be the only one - for pixel I think they give you unlimited storage for photos and videos uncompressed. I don't think they give you specific space for eg device backups

Microsoft and Steam provide unlimited space for cloud game saves for free (only other example I have)
 
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The photos are indeed worth checking out... all 2 of them, lol!!!
You do know how this whole MacRumors thing works, right? That these are simply summaries of full articles that they link to...links that are actually in the very text you're mocking? Because there's a lot more than 2 photos...
 
Wonder how much cloud backup storage other platforms and makers offer? Not, sarcasm, would seriously lie to know the industry trend.

I think its still the case that you get 15GB Google Drive space, which includes mail storage and all photos backed up outside of the Google Photos app at high quality (ie photos uploaded via Google Photos at original quality and directly to Google Drive count as storage). Do/can Android devices do entire device backups to Google’s storage space?

Higher paid tiers of Google storage are broadly in line with Apple’s iCloud storage tiers.

Microsoft will do 1TB of OneDrive storage per user as part of an Office 365 subscription. If they ever did device backups in the past, it will only have been for Windows Phone.

I think Google may be the only one - for pixel I think they give you unlimited storage for photos and videos uncompressed. I don't think they give you specific space for eg device backups

Microsoft and Steam provide unlimited space for cloud game saves for free (only other example I have)

The inclusive Google Drive storage space included with the Pixel handsets encourages users to save at original quality, as well they might given how well regarded the Pixel camera and imaging software is. I think the allowance is time limited though. Like Apple, the paid for storage tiers are well priced, at least until you start getting above 2TB/month.
 
Would be interesting if they told us which operating system is running on these machines, how are they managed blah, blah.
 
Would be interesting if they told us which operating system is running on these machines, how are they managed blah, blah.

By studying articles and Apple job adsathat have been released over the years, one can deduce that:
- In the past Apple has used Sun servers and the Solaris OS;
- then they've moved on to Intel-based servers, including SuperMicro hardware;
- then they've moved from Solaris to Linux;
- in the meantime, they decided to no longer use SuperMicro hardware bexause those machines had a high failure rate.

This basically leaves them with these suppliers:
- Dell
- HP
- Lenovo/IBM
- Cisco
- Oracle

On the software side, you can rest assured that they did not re-invent the wheel -- there are plenty of battle-tested orchestration and deployment suites around, like there are also plenty of monitoring suites available.

What they don't use in there is macOS and their own hardware.
 
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The energy cost of a datacenter over its lifetime far exceeds the cost of a industrial building. 10 megawatts of power * $.10/kWh = $8.76 Million in power per year. And that's relatively small, Google's datacenter fleet is around 40x this.
It was also Apple's promise to keep some employment in Mesa after GT collapsed.
 
I’m pretty sure whoever was apart of the tour, 2 or 3 were CIA operatives scoping the place out so they can sneak back in and install CIA custom malware to spy on us Americans
 
You do know how this whole MacRumors thing works, right? That these are simply summaries of full articles that they link to...links that are actually in the very text you're mocking? Because there's a lot more than 2 photos...
You do know how this whole MacRumors thing works, right? That these are simply summaries of full articles that they link to...links that are actually in the very text you're mocking? Because there's a lot more than 2 photos...

Unless I clicked in a different azcentral site, the article contains 2 photos that I can see on my iPhone. If this is a subscription site though, then that’s a different story...

And yeah I do know how this works
 
Unless I clicked in a different azcentral site, the article contains 2 photos that I can see on my iPhone. If this is a subscription site though, then that’s a different story...

And yeah I do know how this works
Can't speak for your iphone, but for a proper desktop browser there's a slideshow at the top of the article.
 
But why do they need all those network cables? I thought the future was supposed to be wireless :D
And why does Apple need data centers or servers at all? I thought everything was going to the "cloud".:D

Probably by design, the photographers might have been asked to not zoom in close enough for security reasons.
Probably has more to do with PR reasons than security. I too am wondering where are all the Mac Minis running macOS Server.
 
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