I agree to a point but I do think there is utility in asking if Jobs would have approved. I think Apple would do well to ask themselves that as they work on products. Jobs wasn't always right but the question can serve as an important thought exercise. I was going to tell the commentator I replied to to read his biography but I erased the statement (it's a great biography). Woz had completely different ideas about how Apple products should be so asking him doesn't get answers fitting with Jobs' vision (or really with what Apple is doing now). Woz is laid back though so he wouldn't really criticize much.
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I agree to a point but I do think there is utility in asking if Jobs would have approved. I think Apple would do well to ask themselves that as they work on products. Jobs wasn't always right but the question can serve as an important thought exercise. I was going to tell the commentator I replied to to read his biography but I erased the statement (it's a great biography). Woz had completely different ideas about how Apple products should be so asking him doesn't get answers fitting with Jobs' vision (or really with what Apple is doing now). Woz is laid back though so he wouldn't really criticize much.
Maybe Apple (or a 3rd party) will release a matching Pro RAID system with 4 or more internal HDD bays and BluRay on top, to sit next to your shinny new Mac Pro 2013?
Over all I think Apple is going in the right direction, they know most of this money is coming from the iPhone and iPad so why not simplify the Mac Pro.
As always people have to option of going else where, maybe make a Windows Server and have it sit out-of-site in a back room and have you pretty Mac Pro on your desk.
I can assume Apple will release new matching 4k LED Displays to go with this Mac Pro in the Fall?
Over all I think Apple is going in the right direction, they know most of this money is coming from the iPhone and iPad so why not simplify the Mac Pro.
As always people have to option of going else where, maybe make a Windows Server and have it sit out-of-site in a back room and have you pretty Mac Pro on your desk.
I can assume Apple will release new matching 4k LED Displays to go with this Mac Pro in the Fall?
On slide 4 (http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/), you can see a traditional plug. On slide 8 (top view), you can see a cage that probably houses the PSU.
With no hard drives or optical drives, this probably draws much less power than the current Mac Pro and can get away with a smaller PSU.
They could, if they wanted to kill the Mac Pro off.
I won't go much higher than $3k WITH a chassis.
Anything over that just doesn't make sense when I could build a Hackintosh.
Just an FYI to those complaining about a plastic casing, Apple's MacPro product section says the enclosure is: Machined Aluminum: "Refined impact extrusion technologies are more material-efficient and give the polished aluminum enclosure its incredible shape and finish."
Reminds me of the Cube.
Except this will be called the Can (or iCan... or Can-noT?)
The soon-to-be revealed carry handle.
Except this will be called the Can (or iCan... or Can-noT?)
The soon-to-be revealed carry handle.
**** you Apple for Destroying Mac PRO.
1. what if I want 4 SLI Quadro Workstation ?
2. what if I HATE AMD ?
3. you made it External and did not make full PCIE 16X 3.0 External PORT ? who CARES about Thunderbolt we HAVE EXTERNAL PCIE 16X 3.0 with Cables.
4. BLACK ? FOR REAL ? Apple Never Used black . I hate Black
5. Unified cooling ? WHO CARES we are not at Fashion show here !
6. Plastic ? REALLY ?
7. No Hotswapp Raid bay ? REALLY ?
8. No expansion slots ?
9. did you kill Steve Jobs to allow this **** ?
1. what if I want 4 SLI Quadro Workstation ?
2. what if I HATE AMD ?
3. you made it External and did not make full PCIE 16X 3.0 External PORT ? who CARES about Thunderbolt we HAVE EXTERNAL PCIE 16X 3.0 with Cables.
4. BLACK ? FOR REAL ? Apple Never Used black . I hate Black
5. Unified cooling ? WHO CARES we are not at Fashion show here !
6. Plastic ? REALLY ?
7. No Hotswapp Raid bay ? REALLY ?
8. No expansion slots ?
9. did you kill Steve Jobs to allow this **** ?
These are the GCN (Graphics Core Next) AMD GPU processors that Apple is using (almost certainly) equivalent to the FirePro W8000 in performance, and using two of them. More energy efficient and more bang for the buck than Nvidia Quadro Kepler's.
Cool. I understand your workflow. Worked with a colourist on a nightmare of feature film project. Spent a lot of my time communicating with him so we could minimize impacting his workflow as we dealt with, show we say, slower than desired parts of post production. It was on that project that I gained the instant appreciation for FCP X even at's infancy. I didn't have the benefit of FCP X for it and that is why I truly appreciated what it could do afterwards. The problem that kept occurring on our production was shifting timelines. We would lose audio sync with the dialogue because the director who sat in on the editing sessions was focused on editing the scene. We were editing a musical. So these scenes would have around hundred pieces to edit together spread across multiple layers. It was quite easy to lose track of what layer we were editing and the fact that everything on that layer throughout the entire 90 min was also affected by the cuts and the shifts. Hence, the audio sync issue.
Since FCP X is not on layers, what I edit in one scene will never affect another scene. Period.
I came in after the assembly edit was done. Sure, the assembly could have been done better, but it wasn't. And with a director sitting by your side, that is an additional distraction for an editor.
But, no layers mean the scenes are edited independently with no impact on the other scenes.
This would have saved us about 30-40% of our post production time.
It's the "thoroughly rethought" part that people are complaining about. Pros would not have complained if Apple kept the same enclosure and simply updated the internal components with spec bumps to modern hardware. What pros wanted was another Mac Pro, not something entirely different.
Really, it's Thunderbolt's fault. Why the bloody heck does Thunderbolt need to have a display signal onboard? That's the stupidest decision ever made in ports since the USB rectangle.
Buy a Mac mini then...
That should be 1/8th of the size of the new Mac Pro, just too bad there is no decent dedicated GPU built in.
No It is like that girlfriend you have to hide because you don't want to be seen dating her LOL.
12 cores, presumably after hyperthreading, which indicates that It has 6 physical cores, which would reside on a single processor chip. So it sounds like it has a single processor... I could be mistaken though...
Meh, not sure how I feel about it. It looks awesome, and the specs are just insane, but a pro machine with just about zero upgradeability? The majority or professionals would probably prefer one box on their desk, not a tube with 30 thunderbolt-connected peripherals. Oh well, I'm not in the market for one, but it will be interesting to see how it works out
What I DO like is what is implied from it - 20 Gb/s thunderbolt and "all extension being external" might hint for some better support from apple for external GPU's, which would be a huge deal. Also, if it has one HDMI port and 6 TB ports, and supports "up to three 4k displays", I'd say an upcoming 4k TB display is a pretty safe bet. Can't wait!
Back in the days of the G5 and early MacPros it was typical to find these huge towers with nothing but a single HD inside and the stock graphics card. So for users that merely required CPU grunt the size of them was over the top.
The new Pro is tiny enough to be considered a super powerful hub. I'd like a Thunderbolt HD caddy to accommodate a whole bunch of HDs in a 19" rack format, for example.
Part of me says a standard format tower with the latest CPUs and ports would have been enough but can't really fault what Apple have done.
While I expect it to be pricey I hope it's not silly money - ie. more than current MacPro offerings, which are already very expensive. In fact, if Apple probably won't suffer from affluent prosumers buying this over an iMac.
Exactly what I thought. It looks like a waste basket.Looks really cool, but It does remind me a bit of a garbage can