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No need to get offended when I talk about numbers.

I see a clear bashing in your statements.

The math was required here because there are many people like you who thinks that they are wiser than CEOs of these companies.

It's a tech forum, social issues won't help anyone here.



When you do business, numbers are important not penetration rate. Smartphone users in United States are 226,289,000 and in India they are 300,124,000. So Apple wants most of these users in userbase.

Perhaps where you're from, CEOs of businesses are infallible, regardless of what they do. Many of us know better than to assume that.

Smartphone penetration rates need to be analyzed along with projected economic progression rates. But nice of you to throw out those numbers without any context.
 
Thanks for proving my point.

Somehow, "traffic congestion" allows Chinese to purchase 28 million cars but India only 3 million.

But let's not let facts get in the way. I'm sure Indian consumers have plenty of disposable income. They just don't show it by purchasing smartphones or passenger vehicles. Talk about cognitive dissonance.


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Keep thinking you know more about India than someone who has lived there most of his life. These statistics based studies can often paint a wrong picture. No one is saying there is no poverty in India. Just that car sales is a wrong yardstick to use in case of India. Its simply not the preferred mode of transport. Two wheelers are, which has resulted in India being the largest two wheeler market in the world. But like you said, lets not let fact get in the way.

As far as smartphone sales are concerned, more that 100 million were sold last year alone. Yearly sales will only increase as incomes rise. I already said iPhones wont be sold in high numbers right away because many cheaper and good quality options are available. But Apple is in it for the long term. Unlike a few people, Apple has the ability to take multiple factors into consideration before making a judgement.

Also I am not going to try changing what you think anymore. So please don't bother answering.
 
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Perhaps where you're from, CEOs of businesses are infallible, regardless of what they do. Many of us know better than to assume that.

Smartphone penetration rates need to be analyzed along with projected economic progression rates. But nice of you to throw out those numbers without any context.

If you are really unbiased in your research, you would have researched this, too. (You were very active on finding articles to prove your points)

Anyways, Smartphone Penetration (India):

2013 - 12.8%
2015 - 17%
2017 - 22.4%

In four years, the penetration rate is almost doubled.

And as per CISCO's Mobile VNI Mobile forecast (http://www.cisco.com/assets/sol/sp/vni/forecast_highlights_mobile/index.html#~Country,)

In India, 60% of mobile connections will be 'smart' connections by 2021, up from 19% in 2016.
 
India is still an extremely poor country. Literacy rate and access to electricity has been stuck at 75% for years. It's a big poor country.

In 2016, India purchased over 130 million "dumb" (feature) phones which still represents the majority of phone sales. Basically, Indian consumers have yet to convert to smartphones. On the other hand, Chinese consumers are buying luxury smartphones left, right, and center.

Currently, Chinese vendors are dominating the Indian market because India has no tech base or competitive homegrown products. If Apple wants to be competitive in India, it has to lower its price.


Yes it is a poor country still but I have seen a lot more iPhones there than I thought, and no not the 5S kind but rather the iPhone 7 kind. That was not even in the top tier cities. And even the smaller Tier 3 cities would have at least more than two Apple Authorised Resellers, and couple that with like 30% growth Apple is having there every year I think it would be pretty foolish to just be passive towards India.

Yes majority of the sales are price conscious but you'd be amazed at just how many rich people there are who would buy such a thing.
 
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