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Apple Once Again Worth More Than Dell
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OK, well, I was trashing the DULL a couple of weeks ago on Macrumors and got kicked OFF for a couple of days because I hassling some DULL lovers.
I wish I had shorted DULL back then I would have MADE SOME SPENDING MONEY
So anyway because of THAT and this article I checked it out again I FOUND THIS AMAZING RELATIONSHIP
Check out this chart of Dell and MSFT together ...
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=6m&s=DELL&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=msft
Dell has roughly but consistently followed MS in the past but in the last couple of weeks all the sudden DELLs chart IS VERY NICELY LEADING MS
And I think I KNOW WHY
MS dropped LIKE A ROCK because they warned that they MUST spend 2 BILLion MORE to compete with GoooGLE
And I read BOTH stocks news and this is really the most significant thing going on here.
SO IT OCCURS TO ME
If MS spends MORE money on web search & advertise enhancements that is LESS it has to spend on WINDOWS -- WOOPY
AND SO DELL GOES DOWN BECAUSE WITHOUT WINDOWS ENHANCEMENTS DELL HAS NOTHING NEW TO SELL, and this relationship is actually what I was bugging the DULL lovers about, but here is the REALLY BIG kicker.
Why, oh why, oh why, is DULL LEADING MSs stock price down or probably soon up
There is probably still some more down side if you want to short it but be careful maybe there is just 20% more down remaining.
Because there are a LOT of people as well as Dell himself AT DELL who have inside info on WINDOWS PRODUCTS !
Thus, they sell DULL options on bad news.
Some of this trading, IS PROBABLY ILLEGAL INSIDER TRADING BUT WHO NOWS HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE UNTIL THE FEDS CRACK DOWN
In the mean time ENJOY and bid up the fluctuations for ME
I wish I had shorted DULL back then I would have MADE SOME SPENDING MONEY
So anyway because of THAT and this article I checked it out again I FOUND THIS AMAZING RELATIONSHIP
Check out this chart of Dell and MSFT together ...
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=6m&s=DELL&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=msft
Dell has roughly but consistently followed MS in the past but in the last couple of weeks all the sudden DELLs chart IS VERY NICELY LEADING MS
And I think I KNOW WHY
MS dropped LIKE A ROCK because they warned that they MUST spend 2 BILLion MORE to compete with GoooGLE
And I read BOTH stocks news and this is really the most significant thing going on here.
SO IT OCCURS TO ME
If MS spends MORE money on web search & advertise enhancements that is LESS it has to spend on WINDOWS -- WOOPY
AND SO DELL GOES DOWN BECAUSE WITHOUT WINDOWS ENHANCEMENTS DELL HAS NOTHING NEW TO SELL, and this relationship is actually what I was bugging the DULL lovers about, but here is the REALLY BIG kicker.
Why, oh why, oh why, is DULL LEADING MSs stock price down or probably soon up
There is probably still some more down side if you want to short it but be careful maybe there is just 20% more down remaining.
Because there are a LOT of people as well as Dell himself AT DELL who have inside info on WINDOWS PRODUCTS !
Thus, they sell DULL options on bad news.
Some of this trading, IS PROBABLY ILLEGAL INSIDER TRADING BUT WHO NOWS HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE UNTIL THE FEDS CRACK DOWN
In the mean time ENJOY and bid up the fluctuations for ME
CompUser said:
yep. i admire that someone is so excited for a copany they work for, but that is just grotesque...
WildCowboy said:
Macworld said:
Kermit belongs with the good guys....
Apparently it REALLY isn't easy being green.
I can never see that Ballmer Monkey Dance video without wanting to spew. Fair enough MSFT has done v. well over the years, but this bloke makes the Aussie Bundy swilling, ute driving, CAT cap wearing, crack showing redneck look like a well refined gentleman!
P.S. Some of you from other lands will have no idea about a few of the words I used, so here you go:
"Bundy"- Bundaberg Rum. A disgusting teeth-rotting drink that is drunk by rednecks the land over.
"ute"-Utility vehicle. Basically a smaller (than those massive F-series type vehicles that Americans love) pick-up.
This has been your lesson for today.
barstard.
P.S. Some of you from other lands will have no idea about a few of the words I used, so here you go:
"Bundy"- Bundaberg Rum. A disgusting teeth-rotting drink that is drunk by rednecks the land over.
"ute"-Utility vehicle. Basically a smaller (than those massive F-series type vehicles that Americans love) pick-up.
This has been your lesson for today.
barstard.
Just ask Bill. He muse be so green over Leopard now Vista has been put back yet again.WildCowboy said:
yac_moda said:(...)
AND SO DELL GOES DOWN BECAUSE WITHOUT WINDOWS ENHANCEMENTS DELL HAS NOTHING NEW TO SELL, and this relationship is actually what I was bugging the DULL lovers about, but here is the REALLY BIG kicker.
Why, oh why, oh why, is DULL LEADING MSs stock price down or probably soon up
(...)
I suspect the fall in Dell's fortunes has much more to do with their long romantic liaison with Intel, as the past couple of years have seen AMD's Athlon and Opteron wipe the floor with the Pentium 4 waffle irons. My company hasn't bought an Intel based server for two years, as opposed to a couple of dozen AMD-based. Their fortunes here will likely improve with the upcoming Merom/Conroe/Woodcrest, but...
The last Dells we bought were desktops for the company staff -- EVERY ONE OF THEM has had mobo and/or drives replaced at least once, apparently due to poor thermal characteristics. Their support, which used to be solid, has gone utterly to crap. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent escalating what should be simple/brief support calls, following my staff's getting the talk-to-the-hand treatment from those clowns. I'm tempted to post a couple of the messages I've fired off to Dell management. Unless I get evidence that support is again a priority rather than a cost center to minimize, we won't be buying more from them. HP has been much better for us in that regard, plus they sell AMD kit.
We bought a bunch of iBook G4s for our mobile users early last year. Mine had the only significant problem - dead power supply brick, and that may well have been due to a power surge. Apple support was great, they handled it quickly with no hassles.
I think Michael Dell missed the important - being fired and reinventing oneself - part of his M.B.A. training!
The corporate culture is all screwed up when you have lots of disgruntled employees hanging on ihatedell.net - "the #1 disgruntled employee message board!"
Wow, does this company have issues!
The corporate culture is all screwed up when you have lots of disgruntled employees hanging on ihatedell.net - "the #1 disgruntled employee message board!"
Wow, does this company have issues!
strange days said:
WTF??? Horrible...
Thank God that I saw it in the morning... nightmares are a true fear now...
Ryan5505 said:
Where is his information coming from? Pretty much any textbook on financial markets will say nearly the same thing as bommai (the one exception being that bommai is wrong on what a negative PE means). A high P/E means the market expects high earnings growth potential.
The best thing Dell can do is to close down business and divide the remaining money among the stockholders... Hmmm, that quote rings a bit familiar.
Dr.Gargoyle said:The best thing Dell can do is to close down business and divide the remaining money among the stockholders... Hmmm, that quote rings a bit familiar.
I think they might be better off if they just stop selling $300 computers at a loss.
imikem said:
YOU obviously DID NOT LOOK AT THE STOCK CHART that I very conveniently provided YOU a link to
I also perviously put Intel and Apple into that chart and there was NO CONNECTION AT BETWEEN Intel and The DULL, but Apple does seem to be following Intel.
One year I had a testing lab full of DULLs which ALL lost there video cards before one year was out -- support handled it no problem.
Part 2 OF MY SAGA OF DELL vs. DULL
Dell started down on the 13th MS gapped down on the 28th.
Most excellent 5 day chart ...
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=DELL&t=5d&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=msft
So Dull is leading MS by about 15 days, which from knowing how internal announcements go THAT WOULD BE SPOT ON FOR INSIDER TRADING
And it looks like Dull maybe becoming Dell again if the trend holds for the rest of the day, meanwhile MS drops FASTER
We will see if Dell starts to rise again then in 10 to 15 days MS starts to rise again.
Once something like this is occurs each time it repeats it gets shorter and shorter until it happens so fast you can't profit from it.
!!! WOW ¡¡¡ NOW THIS is the TRUE root cause of both MS and DULLs valuations ...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060503/bs_nm/retail_walmart_computers_dc_2
"Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (NYSE:WMT - news) will start selling build-your-own-computer components in more than one-third of its U.S. discount stores this month as it looks for ways to tempt shoppers to buy more than just low-margin food.
ADVERTISEMENT
Wal-Mart currently offers only prepackaged bundles of personal computers and accessories in most of its stores. With the build-your-own-computer counters, shoppers can choose between several different components.
Such components include central processing units -- the brain of the computer that powers its basic functions -- as well as monitors, keyboards and mice that customers can combine to create customized packages they can load in a shopping cart and take home right away."
This is a great opportunity for APPLE IF they started selling a thin version of Mac OS.
DULL is toast ¡¡¡
Dell started down on the 13th MS gapped down on the 28th.
Most excellent 5 day chart ...
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=DELL&t=5d&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=msft
So Dull is leading MS by about 15 days, which from knowing how internal announcements go THAT WOULD BE SPOT ON FOR INSIDER TRADING
And it looks like Dull maybe becoming Dell again if the trend holds for the rest of the day, meanwhile MS drops FASTER
We will see if Dell starts to rise again then in 10 to 15 days MS starts to rise again.
Once something like this is occurs each time it repeats it gets shorter and shorter until it happens so fast you can't profit from it.
!!! WOW ¡¡¡ NOW THIS is the TRUE root cause of both MS and DULLs valuations ...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060503/bs_nm/retail_walmart_computers_dc_2
"Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (NYSE:WMT - news) will start selling build-your-own-computer components in more than one-third of its U.S. discount stores this month as it looks for ways to tempt shoppers to buy more than just low-margin food.
ADVERTISEMENT
Wal-Mart currently offers only prepackaged bundles of personal computers and accessories in most of its stores. With the build-your-own-computer counters, shoppers can choose between several different components.
Such components include central processing units -- the brain of the computer that powers its basic functions -- as well as monitors, keyboards and mice that customers can combine to create customized packages they can load in a shopping cart and take home right away."
This is a great opportunity for APPLE IF they started selling a thin version of Mac OS.
DULL is toast ¡¡¡
itguy06 said:
and dell didn't let his family know about his dropping out until he was worth a million...it kind of lessened the blow
and by the time his family, and many americans really knew what he was up to, he was worth a billion dollars
Apple has serious QUALITY issue
I think Mr. Jobs (who I always admired for his foresight) has to do a MUCH BETTER JOB, if he wants to get a larger market share for his Laptops... The quality of these is simply unacceptable. I suggest he dumps the QUALITY CONTROL MAN in charge at ASUSTEC.
Especially a new product should come out perfect...
I own a TEN YEAR OLD Toshiba laptop, which has a DVD drive, a build in camera, and has worked (and still does work) just fine.
I am in the market to switch to an APPLE MBP 17",but when hearing about all these problems I will wait... In fact, even the old PowerBooks had serious problems, especially with the screen. Flickering until they went dead.
The APPLE Company is just as arrogant as any when it comes to giving the customer SERVICE and VALUE for the big money they pay for the new line of computers.
I think Mr. Jobs (who I always admired for his foresight) has to do a MUCH BETTER JOB, if he wants to get a larger market share for his Laptops... The quality of these is simply unacceptable. I suggest he dumps the QUALITY CONTROL MAN in charge at ASUSTEC.
Especially a new product should come out perfect...
I own a TEN YEAR OLD Toshiba laptop, which has a DVD drive, a build in camera, and has worked (and still does work) just fine.
I am in the market to switch to an APPLE MBP 17",but when hearing about all these problems I will wait... In fact, even the old PowerBooks had serious problems, especially with the screen. Flickering until they went dead.
The APPLE Company is just as arrogant as any when it comes to giving the customer SERVICE and VALUE for the big money they pay for the new line of computers.