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If one needs to fast charge their phone, wireless charging is the least optimal way to do it—plug it in. Otherwise, for routine daily charging or overnight, on the nightstand charging, 15W is more than enough. This is an unnecessary flex by Apple with little actual benefit. Or maybe it’s a discrete way for Apple to speed up those battery replacements. ;)
 
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I‘d like to see a new Apple battery pack with higher Ah and 25W wireless charging. It’s nice having my old battery pack plugged in using it as a wireless charger and grabbing it anytime fully charged for long days.
 
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Big improvement to charging speeds via MagSafe. But requires a new MagSafe charger and a new power adapter too!
 
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More heat = more wasted energy... And Apple BS us with their "carbon neutral" products... So pathetic.
That "calculation" isn't correct.
Energy = power × time

More heat over a shorter amount of time (because charging is finished faster) could equal roughly the same amount of wasted energy.
I would expect efficiency to be only slightly different, but that temperature levels will be very different between the speeds.
 
With these crazy high 200w charging for phones, do users really plug in and charge their phone for 8 minutes then immediately unplug and use. I'm thinking most people just keep a phone plugged in for some time and then eventually unplug from the charger. Speed becomes unnecessary if users mostly just stay connected
 
Energy = power × time
True, but also heat = energy - absolutely fundamental rule of physics! Temperature (how hot it feels) is not "heat" if you use the correct scientific sense of the words.

The question here is how much of that "power × time" energy actually gets stored in the battery, and how much gets wasted as heat. If you had a perfectly efficient charger then, yes, twice the power would charge it in half the time - same energy. With a less efficient charger, not only will some of that energy be wasted in heat, but the rate of heat wastage will quite possibly rise disproportionately to the increase in power. If you imagine a "real" charger as an imaginary "perfect" charger in series with a load of R ohms representing the inefficiency:

Power to the whole charger = voltage × current
Power wasted in load = current squared × R (comes from "V=IR" and "Power=VI")
...so, say, doubling the power by doubling the current quadruples the rate of heat wastage which will outstrip halving the charging time.

The actual effect will depend on the workings of the charger and whether the extra "power" actually comes from raising the current, raising the voltage or (more likely) a bit of both - chargers are complicated but, ultimately you're starting with a fixed 110V. (USB-C power delivery offers several different voltages). Generating a stronger EM field for wireless charging is also going to need more current through the coil and/or more turns on the coil (= more resistive heating either way).

So you'd need a lot more information to be sure, but it's very plausible that a more powerful charger will waste a higher proportion of energy.
 
With these crazy high 200w charging for phones, do users really plug in and charge their phone for 8 minutes then immediately unplug and use. I'm thinking most people just keep a phone plugged in for some time and then eventually unplug from the charger. Speed becomes unnecessary if users mostly just stay connected

Fast charging is only important to a small group of users, like people who travel a lot, are constantly on the move for their jobs, or kids who play games non-stop all day and drain the battery multiple times a day.

For everyone else, this is completely unnecessary, and it seems more like a flexing contest between the companies so their marketing people can point to a number that goes up.
 
Qi2 chargers will only charge iPhone 16 models at up to 15W, and 25W charging will be limited to MagSafe. This time around, it's a wider difference because 25W charging is fast charging and can provide up to 50 percent power in 30 minutes.
Is this the same for iPhone 15 since it supports Qi2 as well?
 
That "calculation" isn't correct.
Energy = power × time

More heat over a shorter amount of time (because charging is finished faster) could equal roughly the same amount of wasted energy.
I would expect efficiency to be only slightly different, but that temperature levels will be very different between the speeds.

You're just incorrect here. Heat is energy, not temperature. All heat released from the exchange is waste. You mean "Higher temperatures over a shorter amount of time." The amount of heat is still the same.
 
Does anyone know if the new MagSafe puck is the same size as previous pucks? I have a weighted base that the Apple MagSafe puck fits into and I’m hoping to not have to buy a new one.
My wife and I have something similar from Amazon and it would be nice to know if it will fit. Although, since I use it at night being able to charge faster seems like it will be wasted for us. If I have to charge during the day I typically use a wire since I am more apt to use my phone.
 
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Does anyone know if the new MagSafe puck is the same size as previous pucks? I have a weighted base that the Apple MagSafe puck fits into and I’m hoping to not have to buy a new one.
This is what I'm doing. It saves so much money over getting a stand with a charger already in it. I would have to believe the pucks are the same dimensions, at least in terms of diameter. I suppose it's possible v2 pucks could be thicker, but I doubt it.
 
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More efficiency is always great to have, but a little bit of context and perspective is useful here.

If a 30W power supply gives 25W of MagSafe charging, it’s reasonable to guess that there’s around 5W of wasted energy there. A full charge will take an hour, so that’s around 5 watt-hours of wasted energy per day, for most people.

So in 1 year it’ll waste around 2000 total watt-hours of electricity, which costs around 40p (at average UK energy prices).

Your iPhone really is an incredibly energy-efficient technical marvel, no matter how you charge it, and isn’t anywhere near the top of the list of climate-change problems.

(But yes, even more efficiency would still be great.)

just use usb-c or thunderbolt to charge your iphone 16, more efficiency and less impact to the Earth.
 
This is what I'm doing. It saves so much money over getting a stand with a charger already in it. I would have to believe the pucks are the same dimensions, at least in terms of diameter. I suppose it's possible v2 pucks could be thicker, but I doubt it.
Same. I have the elago MS5 Duo Charging Stand. When the Apple Watch Series 7 came out with the new fast charging puck, all I had to do was pop out the old charger and put the new one in. I imagine I'll be able to do the same with the new MagSafe charger. Wish more companies would make products like these. Reusable and you get to use the official Apple chargers. (Remember when some third-party chargers for the Apple Watch weren't working for a while?)
 
Same. I have the elago MS5 Duo Charging Stand. When the Apple Watch Series 7 came out with the new fast charging puck, all I had to do was pop out the old charger and put the new one in. I imagine I'll be able to do the same with the new MagSafe charger. Wish more companies would make products like these. Reusable and you get to use the official Apple chargers. (Remember when some third-party chargers for the Apple Watch weren't working for a while?)
That is a neat stand. Only downfall for me is that it can’t do nightstand mode I think. Otherwise would be really nice, since you can use Apple’s latest chargers with it.
 
That is a neat stand. Only downfall for me is that it can’t do nightstand mode I think. Otherwise would be really nice, since you can use Apple’s latest chargers with it.
You can do nightstand mode with it (on the iPhone). Their CAD images aren't the best, but the watch sits further back and isn't in the way when rotating the phone. It does get partially blocked though, but that's fine with me. There should be even more clearance with the thinner Series 10, but I guess you wouldn't be able to do nightstand mode with the thicker Ultra on it. They also have a few other stands.

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From my perspective as a consumer - the main benefit of wireless charging is when you’re on the go. Indoors, it doesn’t matter how I charge up when I work, faff around the house or sleep. To me it’s disappointing that Apple surpassed Qi2 for the sake of selling more of their own wall-plugged chargers. Where are the wireless accessories?
 
Makes me glad that I 3D printed my iPhone and Apple Watch / AirPods Pro charging stand. I can just swap out the 15W puck for this new 25W puck in about a minute, and put the old one in the guest bedroom.
 
So, how fast is wired (non-MagSafe) USB-C charging?
It looks like it supports up to 45W of USB-C fast charging

 
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