Apple Opens App Store to Third-Party Development Tools, Publishes Review Guidelines

[Hal Itosis]

Nope, I never was confused about this. My points were always about the Flash to iPhone compiler in threads about it. If you look at my posting history, I often corrected people who mixed up both too and I said Apple had no technical reasons to do this and that they should reverse the ban, which they now have.

And if you look at my posting history there, you'll observe that i never responded to you directly... not once. Apparently you misunderstood what i said. Just read my first post there and closely STUDY the content of those posts which i did quote (hint: poster's name was edddeduck). If you read that as being about a compiler tool for app development, then... contact your local optometrist immediately.

The link is intact and brings you back to the other thread. Still expecting an apology for your out of place comment about Flash. That other thread isn't about the plugin either, it's about Adobe moving on, and what was it they shipped and were moving on from ? Oh right, the Flash to iPhone compiler. So the threads are linked in a way.

Kindly stop playing the fool. That other thread (much like Steve's posted "Thoughts on Flash") was all over the place. Many of the exchanges there were strictly about the player plugin for web browsing and/or video tags, and/or DRM and/or "open web standards" like HTML5, etc. (e.g., 1, 2, 3, 4, 5). A quick word search count turns up these stats:

web = 51
Safari = 18
plugin = 13​

It's totally disingenuous of you to try and win some imagined point, especially by revising history. I know exactly what I was referring to when i said "Flash" -- so, if you didn't then that's your mistake. Let's keep it real (if that word even exists in troll-speak).

It seems that I can argue and get what I want. Apple was wrong and manned up, you were wrong, do the same.

Infantile, insincere gibberish. Either your reading and comprehension is impaired or you're deliberately spouting bull. Either way, i won't waste my time (or anyone else's) by pursuing this fantasy of yours any further.

 

[Full of Win]

What defeat?

This is a situation where every one wins, but yet you talk of defeat?

Defeat in that Apple had to retract their previously stated position. However, you are 100% correct that the users are the winners here, since we are a little less under the controlling thumb of Big Apple.

 

[firewood]

Today memory is cheap and processing power is very high. These means that you can afford a lot more overhead in your code with out sacrificing much if anything at all.

Except battery life.

Remember now days memory is cheap, processing power is cheap. Our cell phones have more memory, and processing power than our desktops from 10-15 years ago.

And no power plug, instead much smaller batteries than any laptop.

 

[124151155]

Does this mean Flash could come to iOS Safari?

Just that since Flash apps are allowed, why not in-browser flash?

 

[adrian.oconnor]

Once again... we're in a thread where the topic is [related to] Flash Pro (CS/IDE), but some posts drift toward the browser plugin instead. No matter, i'll play along.

Heh! Try reading the thread first to get some context instead of clumsily wading in with your 'insightful' comments. Anyway, as you say, let's play along:

Feast? Try barf. Overly ostentatious. All show and no go. Too fugly, for my taste. But it certainly is "flash" in the least complimentary sense of the word (i.e., pretentious).

Heh! Thanks for those insights. You truly are a gold mine of well considered opinions aren't you?

Look, some people were challenging the concept that design in Flash can be 'beautiful'. Of course it can. It's just another tool in a designer's toolbox. Now stop being so petty.

 

[silverpie]

Can someone explain this to me ? What exactly does this restriction mean, and what are its implications ?

Any executable code that you want to use has to be in the binary that you submit. Point being to keep people from sneaking malicious code around the review.

 

[Fukui]

and so it begins....

 

[Fukui]

Does this mean Flash could come to iOS Safari?

Just that since Flash apps are allowed, why not in-browser flash?

Um, I dont know, maybe something about not being able to use the keyboard or something...

 

[mtbgtr]

Could this announcement have anything to do with the release of Gamecenter?

 

[alent1234]

Could this announcement have anything to do with the release of Gamecenter?

i can imagine that conference call

SJ: you need to recode your game in C
gameloft: ok, we'll just release it on android, windows phone and all the other platforms and get to iphone next year if ever
SJ: bends over to change the policy
gameloft: we'd thought you'd see it our way

multiply this by the other few thousand cool apps that are either exclusive to android, have better features on android or both. or other platforms other than android

 

[KnightWRX]

And if you look at my posting history there, you'll observe that i never responded to you directly... not once.

Look, you called me out specifically :

Anyway, the title says it all: it's (past) time to move on. As far as iOS goes, Flash is dead. Folks like KnightWRX and macUser2007 can multi-post until they're blue in the face... it doesn't matter. **Nothing** they say matters. Millions upon millions of iOS users are happy (ecstatic even) without Flash.

I seriously hope you've learned a good lesson in all this. Being cocky, calling out people can sometimes result in an egg on your face. Apple just served you a double omelette with extra cheese and bacon this time.

It's evident you're not going to apologize for your arrogant and out of place comment, so I'll just add you to my ignore list. You've more than deserved it.

 

[kas23]

NO, NO, NO, you can't publish facts like this! The current propaganda is that Apple is evil and closed! They are worse than all other companies. They are awful. Steve is evil!

OK, now back to reality world where we see that once again the facts do not match the propaganda being pushed by Apple's competitors.

Um, not exactly. This is probably the real reason for the change of heart:

http://www.9to5mac.com/25698/wsj#more-25698

 

[Hal Itosis]

Once again... we're in a thread where the topic is [related to] Flash Pro (CS/IDE), but some posts drift toward the browser plugin instead.

Heh! Try reading the thread first to get some context instead of clumsily wading in with your 'insightful' comments.

Clumsy? haha. Maybe you should try reading the thread's title (Apple Opens App Store to Third-Party Development Tools), and post #1 especially. My comment was right.on.the.mark... and your attempt to discredit it is pure twaddle.

I seriously hope you've learned a good lesson in all this. Being cocky, calling out people can sometimes result in an egg on your face. Apple just served you a double omelette with extra cheese and bacon this time.

Delusional drivel. My post was clear in its reference to the player plugin (i.e., nothing to do with the AppStore IDE). I'm not responsible for what you were mistakenly thinking about, when you read it and replied. The lesson i've learned? : don't feed the trolls.

It's evident you're not going to apologize for your arrogant and out of place comment, so I'll just add you to my ignore list. You've more than deserved it.

Which "arrogant and out of place comment"? That Flash (browser plugin) is dead on iOS 4, or that nothing you say matters? Both remain true and very much in place... sorry.

Thanks for the honor of being on *your* ignore list. I may return the favor, as you seem to pepper most threads with turds anyway.

 

[mr_flibble]

RealPlayer

Now give me RealPlayer for iPhone/iPad and I can go and buy iPad. No metter how much RP "sucks", my TV provider use it exclusively for content streaming. I could finally leave my laptop at home when travelling and still have access to my TV!

 

[twoodcc]

i must say, i was very surprised to read this. but maybe in the long run, this will help the app store stay ahead of everyone else

 

[chenazhi]

wo........