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This sounds really good actually. If the Edge iPhone is cheaper and the monthly rates are a good amount lower, my mom may consider letting me get it.
 
I'm in the market for 2 cordless home phones at the moment. I wish Apple would release a wifi-only phone (at iPod Touch prices) that I could log into my VoIP provider....
 
hopefully the model will justify o2 in the uk offering it out as an early upgrade for us iphone customers. i had mine stolen a few months and i'm hating not having an iphone! i need an early upgrade, or else i've gotta wait nearly another year for a new one :(
 
Next Gen

I was actually hoping AT&T & Apple would start implementing the new 4G network that they spoke about previously. Sprint is starting to show commercials for it (A very cool commercial if you ask me). I think the figures put EDGE around 700+ something kbit/s, 3G up to 14.4 Mbits/s, and 4G (estimated) at 100 Mbit/s while mobile and up to 1 Gbit/s while stationary.
 
The only claim was "twice as fast", and that didn't even specify what was twice as fast as it was just one of Apple's simple marketing posters. The WiFi speed stayed the same, the CPU speed the same though it was clocked a little higher in the firmware.

I think that saying that 3G was twice as fast as EDGE as a general rule is more than lenient. Especially when every other cellphone manufacturer advertising the theoretical speed of the radios, not a relative speed. For instance, you'll see their 3G listed as 3.6Mbps or 7.2Mbps.

NYC was(is) was of those cities that were just too congested for the number of iPhone buyers, but that isn't Apple's fault, it's AT&T's. I've heard plenty of reports of the cell signal and 3G speeds getting remarkably better all of a sudden, one day. That may be the case with the areas you travel, too, so I wouldn't make up your mind yet that EDGE is as far as you ever want to go with a cellular radio speed.

Who claims 3.6Mbps or 7.2Mbps? if its AT&T then Im really disappointed because in countless speed tests in Manhattan, i never got above 350kps or so. As far as "one day it got faster" stories, i bought/returned the phone beginning of this month, so if the 350kps (and that’s MAX I got, I usually got in the low 200s) is the upgraded speed, again, disappointed. In terms of NYC being a congested area, that is a weak excuse, AT&T should have more towers/infrastructure in their biggest markets so this doesn’t happen! In the end, it doesn’t matter whos fault it is. My point is, having the option to purchase an EDGE phone with the corresponding lower EDGE data pricing would be appealing to many people who get spotty/no 3G coverage, myself included.
 
Anyone consider the possibility that the EDGE only phone will have significantly more ability to sustain battery than the 3G phone?

I don't understand how iPhones work in terms of allowing you to specifically say you only want 3g, both (roam when not in 3g zone), or just EDGE (I know you have no choice between WiFi and 3G and it just happens...) but my phone can only be set to 3G or Both which is annoying because I have spotty 3g areas and unless I'm browsing the internet I only want Edge coverage because it's so consistent and I get full bars all over Melbourne and beyond.

So unless the 3G can be setup to be an edge only phone, and not ever search for 3G signals, even when out of zone, then there is definitely a market for the EDGE phone...if only in terms of battery and guaranteed coverage (for me anyway)
 
I certainly hope there will be enough stock so the nightmare of the 3g launch with its ;) long lines, outtages, checking for availability, etc are minimized.
 
I would like an Edge iPhone with all of the new features that are rumored... Maybe the edge will get the 3.2 megapixel camera and the higher end model will get the 5 megapixel camera...
 
It's funny to read... first the iPhone comes out with edge only, then everybody complains that they want 3G. Now 3G is there, and with the new iPhones coming everybody want's it to have edge only??

I seriously think it needs both, and properly it's one chip within the iPhone anyways.

What we REALLY want is freedom on the iphone and telecom should allow us to run any viop or other app on the phone, remove the damn restrictions please! There is plenty enough bandwidth and we have been paying for it for years now.

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It's funny to read... first the iPhone comes out with edge only, then everybody complains that they want 3G. Now 3G is there, and with the new iPhones coming everybody want's it to have edge only??
Actually, that's not what I want.

What I want (and I know I don't necessarily speak for anyone else here) is an iPhone I can use on a CDMA network simply because I don't like GSM, and also because I don't like AT&T, either.
 
Pluss taking out 3G? Wouldn't think it would save much money per unit when needing a seperate assembly line and packaging etc would be needed for the edge only phone.

It's called a business move of using more than one manufacture to assemble your product.
 
hopefully they won't forget put front camera (behind screen) for my iChat AV there:rolleyes:

Would a camera behind the screen work? Wouldn't it take a picture of whatever is on the screen too? I know there is a patents on tiny lenses or sensors between the pixels, but is the technology there yet?
 
EDGE only model makes no sense to me. whats the purpose of it? I say it wont happen. I think thats like saying the new playstation gaming device will have the same tech as the ps1 and thats for people who has slow or no internet at all.

Maybe that was a bad comparison :p

edit: and how much longer will edge be around?
 

"These iPhones might be a combination of 3 new models"

Sounds like a rumor. I don't know why Apple would be ordering new production phones this early. And I absolutely don't see Apple producing several different models. It's not Apple's style to produce several different versions.

And ESPECIALLY with the competition (Palm Pre, etc) developing new phones, I think Apple wants to wait as long as possible to "borrow" any ideas from the competition before it commits to a new production version.
 
My 3G Iphone will be about one year old when the new ones come out. Being an IPhone junkie, I may break down and buy the new one upon release. I guess that just starts the two year commitment over to AT&T.

How many of you plan on getting the new phone?
 
Sounds like a rumor. I don't know why Apple would be ordering new production phones this early. And I absolutely don't see Apple producing several different models. It's not Apple's style to produce several different versions.

And ESPECIALLY with the competition (Palm Pre, etc) developing new phones, I think Apple wants to wait as long as possible to "borrow" any ideas from the competition before it commits to a new production version.

How so?
They have different versions of everything.
 
Would a camera behind the screen work? Wouldn't it take a picture of whatever is on the screen too? I know there is a patents on tiny lenses or sensors between the pixels, but is the technology there yet?

As you know Apple products are about elegancy. They won't put front camera anywhere because they have to. "They will do it from behind":D...of screen of course, which means they will do everything to keep beautifulness of iPhone all the time.
That patent was theirs so they up to something like this anyway. I am sure there will be video conference included this time and it will be done properly, with Apple standards.
 
I just hope we're not going to see another instalment of apples new 'cripple product-make huge profit' strategy (as in latest imacs etc.). Let's wait and see.
 
Think BRIC countries

“According to its insider news, Apple has already ordered 4 million units of new iPhones and expected to receive the shipment by end of this quarter. These iPhones might be a combination of 3 new models, with one only supports EDGE wireless data connection, another one for 3G wireless data connection and one model made for China market (for China’s TD-SCDMA network?). There will not be iPhone Nano and the new iPhone 2009 will be similar to the current iPhone 3G, according to the report.”

An unlocked EDGE only iPhone makes perfect sense … Think BRIC countries where lower incomes and pre-paid (not "on contract") wireless accounts are the norm. A low cost iPhone will be very appealing in Brazil, Russia, India and China.

China Mobile runs a very robust EDGE 2.5 G network across China (290 million of China Mobile's 461 million subscribers are pre-paid). Many wireless users have reported a very good EDGE connection in China. I wouldn’t dismiss the Nano iPhone. It’s possible that the unlocked EDGE iPhone will be the Nano iPhone. It is also very possible that the Nano form factor was a design experiment that will remain under “lock-in-key” somewhere in the vaults in Cupertino. Mobile gaming (wildly popular in China) is really becoming a major focus for Apple and carriers since the App Store has taken off and a full screen is important to the gaming experience.

As for the special “for China” iPhone … It will NOT support TD-SCDMA (China Mobile’s 3G network). Rather it will be W-CDMA 3G (China Unicom’s network). All signs point to Apple and China Unicom having concluded (past tense) a “3G” exclusive. The special iPhone 3G for China will likely come pre-loaded with several “for China” apps (e.g. Youku vs. Youtube) and may not have WiFi. China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) currently prohibits 3G handsets from including WiFi (although this policy is now under review). More here > http://idannyb.wordpress.com/2009/04/12/china’s-ban-on-wifi-enabled-handsets-needs-to-be-lifted/
 
I really doubt they'll go back to an EDGE-only iphone after naming the 2008 model the iphone 3G. I'm not saying it wouldn't make a certain amount of sense, but it would just *look* regressive.
 
I really doubt they'll go back to an EDGE-only iphone after naming the 2008 model the iphone 3G. I'm not saying it wouldn't make a certain amount of sense, but it would just *look* regressive.

Agree. Think about it; they have relased new iPhone and is the same as original one (in terms of EDGE). Would you buy one even you are from china or somewhere like that? No, because you are already aware of 3G capability and you say "screw you apple":mad:
 
doesn't make any sense. egde only parts are going to be only marginally cheaper than 3g nowadays. td-scdma technology isn't mature yet, there's hardly any models from the major manufacturers, the technology risk is huge.

further china and india are largely similar markets, in india apple managed to sell only few tens of thousands of iphones. that's nowhere nearly enough to justify a model using completely different technology. even if apple sold 10x that amount in china it still wouldn't be viable business proposition.

c'mon apple doesn't even make a cdma/evdo version of iphone, and those technologies are mature and widely used!
 
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