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Looking at their posted statement, they actually quote verbatim the Judge's ruling. I don't see how that's an egregious breach of anything. Somebody's being spiteful, and I'm not sure it's Apple this time.

Cherry-picking quotes from a trial and going against the spirit and purpose of the ruling is simply childish. Apple should be heavily fined for their illegal and thuggish behaviour.
 
1. No, they were asked to say: "this guy didn't copy us", when obviously Apple feels they did. So, they quote the judge aaand other rulings.

2. I would love to actually see that scenario unfold. This would be an issue of jurisdiction; the UK market would be off-limits. I understand this would have an impact on Apple's financials, but the world is a biiig market. The implication of unwavering principles, on the other hand, would be awesome: "We feel these guys copied us. Blatantly. The UK courts did not agree, so we're pulling our products out of the UK. We will not advertise, nor negotiate with thieves, damn the cost".

I know this would never happen, but it would rock. Then again, I don't live in the UK, and without Apple stuff I wouldn't enjoy computing as much...:D
Did you see the exact paragraph they were told to post on the website? It did not require Apple to say that Samsung didn't copy them, it explicitly said that the High Court (not Apple) ruled that Samsung didn't infringe on particular patents.
 
Our tax
Money at work people. Mediating the childish antics of huge corporations.

By the way, who was it saying that samsungs sgs3 ads were childish and Apple wouldn't do anything of the sort (all the while ignoring the Mac v pc ads a few years ago)? Eating those words aren't we? ;)
 
...Umm, so should we just through out the entire judicial system? Should we all ignore laws then? Your logic is plainly faulty here.

And answer this question for me: In the case of the US court's judgement against Samsung (and the ruling that Samsung owes ~$1B to Apple), do you think it'd be OK for Samsung to ignore that court order (assuming all appeals will be exhausted eventually and the US court's decision doesn't change)? Because based on your reply above, it seems to me you're saying: It's OK if you disagree with the court's judgement and purposefully act against it (as long as it's Apple). Right?

No. YOU said that. Because you're already pre-wired to expect such responses based on your own bias.

Who said anything about throwing the system out? I said it is inherently flawed, meaning that it will make mistakes (it is run by humans after all). And if that if there is a flaw, we should fight it. In the US, it was illegal for women and African-Americans to vote at one point. It was legal to own human slaves. These are (huge) examples of the dissonance between "legal" and "right", which I was alluding to. I believe that, whichever position you take, you have a personal obligation to not just bend over and take it.

My post was written from Apple's point of view, merely because I agree with them in this instance. However, the logic applies either way: Yes, Samsung could say "F-You, we didn't infringe", and face the consequences as well (that would also be interesting to see; it's not my money we're betting with here). For me, the outcome of these legal battles are merely entertainment.
 
Reference to judgement which mentions additional sites?

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html#para64

That ruling was updated in the appeal court judgement...

I turn to the form of the publicity order. No more than that which is proportionate is necessary. As regards the newspaper publicity we had no complaint about the detail of that and, subject to the wording, I would affirm Judge Birss's order. As regards publicity on the Apple home web page, Mr Carr realistically recognised that Apple had a genuine interest in keeping it uncluttered. He proposed that instead of requiring the notice to be on the web page itself, it would be sufficient if there were a link provided from that to the notice. There are some links already provided. All that need be added is a link entitled "Samsung/Apple UK judgment." I think that would be appropriate and proportionate.

As regards the period for which the link should appear, Mr Carr recognised that a one month period would probably suffice. So I think it should be required for a month from the date the order of this Court is made. But for the fact that Apple have agreed to obtain discharge of the order of the Oberlandesgericht I would have considered a longer period necessary.

Finally I should say something about the notice itself. We heard no discussion about that. Plainly Judge Birss's Schedule has been overtaken by events. Subject to anything that may be submitted by either side I would propose the following:

On 9th July 2012 the High Court of Justice of England and Wales ruled that Samsung Electronic (UK) Limited's Galaxy Tablet Computers, namely the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Tab 8.9 and Tab 7.7 do not infringe Apple's registered design No. 0000181607-0001. A copy of the full judgment of the High court is available on the following link [link given].

That Judgment has effect throughout the European Union and was upheld by the Court of Appeal on ….. A copy of the Court of Appeal's judgment is available on the following link […]. There is no injunction in respect of the registered design in force anywhere in Europe
.

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html
 
I say pull out of the UK.

I totally agree 100% with this! Please I really want Apple to pull out of the UK market all together, ban sales of any of it's products in the UK. Ban the use of all of it's app stores in the UK on iOS devices and Mac computers, please..
Because then Apple's profits will dive and it's share price will plummet and it will have to reduce it's global operations and size of the corporation and it's employee levels'. It would be the best way to teach the corporation a lesson.

So please get a partition up and running to force this. Please...
 
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Good god this is ridiculous. So apple lost. Make them pay a fine or Samsung's court costs. The rest of it is just stupid.
 
The 2 weeks dev time for a Homepage change, wow apple, apple must really think that everyone is a fool.

And for the ones that believe it.... and some will, you can do this change within 48 hours.
You can do it within a few minutes if you already know what the page is supposed to say and you have a reasonably fast typist.

I'm sure the two weeks is the time needed to meet with the lawyers and draft a response and then come up with a suitable re-wording and then send it through the various committees and executives and other lawyers that need to see it and then discuss all of the suggestions from the various proofreaders and then send it back and then there's probably a whole team devoted to approving online content and ... you can see where I'm going with this.
 
I totally agree 100% with this! Please I really want Apple to pull out of the UK market all together, ban sales of any of it's products in the UK. Ban the use of all of it's app stores in the UK on iOS devices and Mac computers, please..
Because then Apple's profits will dive and it's share price will plummet and it will have to reduce it's global operations and size of the corporation and it's employee levels'. It would be the best way to teach the corporation a lesson.

So please get a partition up and running to force this. Please...

Would be ridiculously bad for the UK and the people living here.
 
How the hell have you missed the best part of this story - that Apple's Lawyers said they could remove the statement in 48 hours but it would take 14 days to put up the placement!!!

The Judge must have pissed his pants laughing.

He then said no - do it in 48 hours or have Tim Cook issue a statement that they have a technical issue

Totally love it - dont try and take the piss of an English Judge, Apple - such a sign of arrogance
 
Brilliant marketing on Apple's part. They've got everyone talking about this, and as the lyric goes "I don't care what you're saying, as along as it's about me." News organizations all over the world have picked up on this 'story" and by anyone reading the story, Apple has gotten it's point across, free. Apple doesn't care how it's looks, it was a dumb ruling to begin with. Tell me, what's the legal definition of "cool"? Isn't that a subjective term?? The judge erredand Apple is making him/her eat their words. And laughing all the way to the free publicity bank.
 
Apple hid the non-apology and referenced other country's cases, this seems completely fair. Those equating the Galaxy with a counterfeit product should put down the kool-aid.
 
Learning from Samsung

It's funny that Samsung is getting bent out of shape because Apple quoted the judge saying, " Because it's simply not as cool" when Samsung's ad campaign for the Galaxy S3 is exactly that. "iPhone 5 is lame, the Galaxy S3 is way cooler". Oh well what you going to do, people always criticize the guy on top.

-Rusty
 
I live in the UK, and we have a saying here:

"The law is an ass", and that applies to this judge in spades.
 
It's funny that Samsung is getting bent out of shape because Apple quoted the judge saying, " Because it's simply not as cool" when Samsung's ad campaign for the Galaxy S3 is exactly that. "iPhone 5 is lame, the Galaxy S3 is way cooler". Oh well what you going to do, people always criticize the guy on top.

-Rusty

One was a court order - one was an advertisement.

They are very different.
 
It's amazing how Apple fans still act like Apple is the same (underdog) circa 1997 and needs all the help and backing we can offer. Fans get heated when the "underdog" doesn't appear to get a fair hearing, as if all the big boys are seeking to bring down the company.

Seriously, it's amazing to see the same kind of approach I used to see in 1997, when it was Apple v Microsoft (et all). Fans forget that Apple is the biggest company worldwide, has billions of cash and can afford the best lawyers in the business. And fail to see that Apple has now become the bully :)

It's amazing to see people thinking that Samsung is a small company being "bullied" by Apple.

I guess you judge a company's size by their profits...
 
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