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A jury today ruled that Apple owes VirnetX $502.8 million for patent infringement in an ongoing legal battle that has spanned 10 years. The dispute started in 2010, when VirnetX accused Apple's FaceTime feature of infringing on VirnetX patents.

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According to Bloomberg, the jury in the case was asked to determine how much Apple owes VirnetX in royalties for VPN on Demand, an iPhone feature that lets people access virtual private networks.

VirnetX wanted Apple to pay $700 million, while Apple argued that it should pay $113 million, based on a royalty rate of 19 cents per unit. The jury instead decided on the 84 cent per unit total.

There are two separate lawsuits in the VirnetX vs. Apple legal battle, pertaining to older and newer Apple devices. Earlier this year, Apple was ordered to pay VirnetX $454 million, so this second award will be in addition to that first payment. When it comes to this case, VirnetX was originally awarded $502 million, but the ruling was partially overturned in 2019 and sent back to the lower courts to determine new damages.

Article Link: Apple Ordered to Pay VirnetX Another $502.8 Million for Patent Infringement
 

bLackjackj

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Why is patent trolling still not a crime??

Jury? More like a bunch of moronic monkeys.

RIGGA MORRIS
Where is the trolling & who are you calling a moronic monkey, Lol...Apple had offered to pay 112m for using patented technology!

You cannot just take patented technology owned by whomever & use it for your own self gain whithout paying...?
 

hot-gril

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and Apple gets away with violating patents?
It's no coincidence that they never "violate" the patents of a company that actually makes products. I'm not saying holding a patent requires using it, but at some point it gets suspicious when there are so many companies whose only income is lawsuits, always against tech giants, always in Texas courts.

And besides, you really think Apple, MSFT, and Cisco need to steal technology to develop basic software?
 
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farewelwilliams

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Is that confirmed? I feel like this situation wouldn't impact the openness of FaceTime. Just as iMessage is only an AppleOS feature, FaceTime was always meant to be a feature strictly across Apple's ecosystem.

FaceTime was a "peer to peer" implementation which would have cost Apple little to no money to run the service. By having it peer to peer, it was entirely possible for an open standard to happen.

Since the peer to peer method was infringing on VirnetX's patents, Apple had to redo FaceTime (breaking it on iOS6) and route all calls through a server run by Akamai which costs Apple money and no longer made it available to be an open standard.

Apple had changed the way it did peer-to-peer conferencing – which doesn't cost Apple money because it routes through people's internet connections - because it had been found guilty of infringing patents owned by VirnetX.
 

Raist3001

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Where is the trolling & who are you calling a moronic monkey, Lol...Apple had offered to pay 112m for using patented technology!

You cannot just take patented technology owned by whomever & use it for your own self gain whithout paying...?

Agreed. When Apple steals patented technology, so many fans turn a blind eye, and the company protecting their IP are patent trolls. When apple sues to protect their IP, they are considered heroes.
 
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