Apple Ordering Screens of 'At Least 4 Inches' for Next-Generation iPhone

[Burger Thing]

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I think it is high time for Apple to offer at least 2 different sized models, if they want to keep (or increase) their market share: 3.5" and a 4.3-4.7" model. I can't really image that Apple just simply sits still and see all the Android offerings with bigger screens getting sold in relatively large numbers. Those customers would probably never go back to a 3.5" screen.

 

[Poisednoise]

I'd be happy if Apple just put a 2nd speaker in the phone....they "show" two grills on the bottom afterall....plus it would help with ringer volume.


But I know the Fanboi's would really like a redesigned phone case....something to show off....

What's the purpose of the second speaker, other than to make it louder? There is no point in having stereo when the two speakers are that close together. At present I think one of the grills is for the speaker, the other is for the microphone.

 

[nw9]

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I think it is high time for Apple to offer at least 2 different sized models,

That would be the best solution. Offering only one choice is the problem. The one-size-fits all never works in the real world. Also people who say that people should switch to Android smartphones if we want the larger size is missing the point.

I've already used Android phones and prefer iOS, but the larger screen size makes doing most things on a smartphone more enjoyable in my opinion.

 

[dra]

2 new phones this oct Iphone 5 and the Iphone aqua

 

[marksman]

I am not going to tell you how I know but I know exactly how big 4" is.

 

[Simgar988]

And the 'Fanboi of the Day' Award goes to...

YES!!! Please be true!

My iPhone Wish List

The "New iPhone"

4" 300+ppi Retina Screen
Super IPS LCD2
Gorilla Glass 2
4G LTE
A6 Quad Core
1gb RAM
Bigger battery
Better or same battery life as 4S
Slimmer/lighter than iPhone 4S
Minimal bezel
Aluminum or Polycarbonate unibody
New inner earbuds!!!
Even better 8-10mp camera with dual LED flash
Camera burst mode
3mp front camera
iOS6 with live app icons
More widgets in notification center
Settings toggles in notification center
An Android Beam equivalent
New maps app with Siri voice navigation
Illuminated home button for notifications
Multiband World phone
Siri 2.0 with native app integration
FaceTime over LTE
Redesigned keyboard with better shortcuts
Weather in lock screen
More shortcuts than just camera in lock screen
Last but not least, 2 drops of unicorn tears as opposed to the usual 1 to make it extra magical.

 

[Serelus]

It's also going feature this new spectacular antenna, you know cause apple doesn't need redesigns.

 

[Sedrick]

I have a question for all you who want the iPhone to stay just the way it is: Just what would you have Apple introduce this Fall?

That's like BMW keeping the same car year after year, because it's perfect the way it is. Sure, sales would stay strong for awhile, maybe a couple years, but it won't be long before people start moving on in droves.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

I hope its never. Having tried a number of my colleagues phones with 4"+ screens I've really found them to be too large. For the extra real estate gained the trade of wasn't worth it. This is a device that is nearly always going to be in your hand when you use it, so it needs to be comfortable to handle.

So because the ones you tried were too large the thing that Apple will make will be too large as well? You can have a 4 inch screen with very little change in size or you can make it sloppily and leave way too much of a bezel around making the device too large. Sounds like you have experienced the latter, but not the former. There are larger screened devices out there that aren't too large to use. And this is coming from someone who has small hands.

No, I didn't miss it. I was saying that of the 4"+ phones that are CURRENTLY out, they are all way to large and unwieldy for me to consider. However, if they give us a 4" screen at the expense of the aspect ratio, I'm not sure I'm on board with that either.

I don't know how many devices you have tried to get the impression that everything currently out is too large, but read my post above. There is a right way to do a larger device and a wrong way and there are examples of both in the marketplace. I have no doubt that Apple will do a larger device the right way, not wrong.

I don't understand this clamor for a change in form and dimension at all.

I think the current 4S is near perfect, as were the predecessors with their identical dimensions (excluding curvature).

Because not one-size fits-all???

Speaking as a 'geezer' I like the iPhone just the way it is. If I have trouble reading something on the screen, I put my glasses on.

And as I mentioned to you in another thread on this subject, despite you taking the one-size-fits-all mentality to vision problems as well as phone sizes, not all vision problems are solved by glasses. What works for you doesn't automatically transfer to other people on this planet. Expand your horizons a little. I don't think a larger screen will mean much of a difference in size of the device so I suspect that after you've gotten use to a larger iPhone screen, you'll someday say that you like that just the way it is too.

Some people just don't like change I guess. But virtually nothing stays the same forever. Certainly no technology item does. It wouldn't make sense for Apple to keep making essentially the same device forever with only a speed bump and a few software tweaks going forward.

 

[_Refurbished_]

So I keep seeing those terrible mockups posted with the "taller" iPhone. Here's a more realistic view of what we should expect to see:

Samsung Focus 2 w/ 4" Super AMOLED Screen
Product Dimensions: 4.79 "x 2.47" x 0.43"

iPhone 4S w/ 3.5" IPS Screen
Product Dimensions: 4.5" x 2.31" x 0.37"

The Samsung's Focus 2 is wider and thicker than the iPhone 4, but shorter in length.

Hopefully Apple can make a thin, narrow, and sexy phone, compared to the Samsung. Good luck Ive and Co.. I have ye faith.

 

[sportsfan]

What's the purpose of the second speaker, other than to make it louder? There is no point in having stereo when the two speakers are that close together. At present I think one of the grills is for the speaker, the other is for the microphone.

If you read my post instead of quickly typing back a quick answer, you would see I only mentioned a louder speaker...nothing about stereo.

 

[itsmemuffins]

So I keep seeing those terrible mockups posted with the "taller" iPhone. Here's a more realistic view of what we should expect to see:

Samsung Focus 2 w/ 4" Super AMOLED Screen
Product Dimensions: 4.79 "x 2.47" x 0.43"

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iPhone 4S w/ 3.5" IPS Screen
Product Dimensions: 4.5" x 2.31" x 0.37"

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The Samsung's Focus 2 is wider and thicker than the iPhone 4, but shorter in length.

Hopefully Apple can make a thin, narrow, and sexy phone, compared to the Samsung. Good luck Ive and Co.. I have ye faith.

You can't compare the two. The Samsung is a wide screen 16:9 the iPhone isn't.

 

[whooleytoo]

That's 4% per hour, just for LTE. I don't know what's your definition of "battery killer".

The Retina display.

Look at how long the device lasts when running as an LTE hotspot with the display off. 25 hours, instead of 10-11.

 

[zweigand]

Main reason I don't think we'll see a tall/skinny screen… (besides text not being any larger)

Photos are extremely important on a smart phone—more so than video, and probably anything else besides web access. The 3:2 screen on current iPhones already crops your photos slightly. With a widescreen aspect ratio the crop is far too severe. The only logical way to display the image would be padded with black bars, and I don't see Apple ever stooping to that design level.

 

[smoledman]

Going larger then 3.5" is heresy! 3.5" is holy.

 

[kdarling]

The only logical way to display the image would be padded with black bars, and I don't see Apple ever stooping to that design level.

Apple already stooped much lower than that, with the single iPhone app at-a-time with black bars on an iPad.

 

[zweigand]

Apple already stooped much lower than that, with the single iPhone app at-a-time with black bars on an iPad.

True, but that was a stop-gap measure that gave devs extra incentive to do native iPad apps. Think negative reinforcement…

 

[thekeyring]

After last years farce I don't believe anything unless I see it in the flesh.

Thought your display picture was a bug on my screen, and I tried to squish it.

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I don't think they'll be any fragmentation. After all, this isn't Android where anyone can throw a phone together and put the OS on it. They'll be two iPhone screen sizes.

There's a jailbreak for iPad which means iPhone apps run blown up, like an Android phone app running on an Android tablet. It looks bad which, I guess, is why Apple made the 1x and 2x viewing mode for iPhone apps on iPad.

However, if this can be done, then all the current iPhone apps will work on a bigger iPhone screen without modification. They won't need extensive reworking like they did when iPad was released.

Maybe they'll want to adjust things to make them 100% perfect, but without any changes, there are no issues. Like with the introduction of the Retina Display.

 

[Davvid]

"at least 4 inches"

how much is that?

 

[yrsued]

After last years farce I don't believe anything unless I see it in the flesh.

What farce??

The fact that apple didn't come out with something they were NEVER going to come out with?? Or that they didn't release a phone based on Rumors??

Guess what, companies don't make products based on Rumors on forums.

Y

 

[Poisednoise]

If you read my post instead of quickly typing back a quick answer, you would see I only mentioned a louder speaker...nothing about stereo.

I did read your post. I couldn't understand why you would want a second speaker if it was purely for further amplification, particularly given that you said "plus it would help with ringer volume" [my italics], implying that you were after something else primarily from the second speaker other that simply amplification, although you did not specify what, leaving us guessing.

A louder single speaker would be far more effective: two speakers will set up interference patterns that will mean potentially a quieter ringer, depending on your position in relation to the speakers. That's why I was confused.

Anyway, where does the microphone go then?

 

[0092762]

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I think it is high time for Apple to offer at least 2 different sized models, if they want to keep (or increase) their market share: 3.5" and a 4.3-4.7" model. I can't really image that Apple just simply sits still and see all the Android offerings with bigger screens getting sold in relatively large numbers. Those customers would probably never go back to a 3.5" screen.

They will offer 2 different sizes. 4S for people who are stuck in the past and think 3.5" is enough and iphone 5 with 4+ inch screen for those of us who want the best.

 

[itsmemuffins]

What farce??

The fact that apple didn't come out with something they were NEVER going to come out with?? Or that they didn't release a phone based on Rumors??

Guess what, companies don't make products based on Rumors on forums.

Y

Last years wild rumours were a farce, nothing to do with Apple.

This year I'm not following any rumours unless they are like the iPhone 4/Gizmodo type.

 

[Gjwilly]

Main reason I don't think we'll see a tall/skinny screen… (besides text not being any larger)

Image

Photos are extremely important on a smart phone—more so than video, and probably anything else besides web access. The 3:2 screen on current iPhones already crops your photos slightly. With a widescreen aspect ratio the crop is far too severe. The only logical way to display the image would be padded with black bars, and I don't see Apple ever stooping to that design level.

You forget that this is Apple we're talkling about.
They will simply change the size of the pictures produced so that they're natively 16x9.
Can't you just hear them at the Yerba Buena?
"Why are cameras still taking pictures in an outdated 4:3 ratio? Computer monitors are 16:9... Televisions are 16:9... And now, so is your camera."
Thanks to the new Apple revolution, 16:9 will be the new ratio for all cameras going foward.

 

[zweigand]

You forget that this is Apple we're talkling about.
They will simply change the size of the pictures produced so that they're natively 16x9.
Can't you just hear them at the Yerba Buena?
"Why are cameras still taking pictures in an outdated 4:3 ratio? Computer monitors are 16:9... Televisions are 16:9... And now, so is your camera."
Thanks to the new Apple revolution, 16:9 will be the new ratio for all cameras going foward.

Hehe, they could indeed do that! Although the huge drawback to that is all of the vertical images displayed on widescreen devices would end up looking like this...

Would that then be lumped under "Holding it wrong" again?