Apple overpriced like hell.

UBS28

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Since Apple will not update the MBP anytime soon according to some rumours, does anyone find it crazy that they charge $3000+ for a 1 year old laptop?
 
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cyclingplatypus

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Nope. For the length of time my Mac Laptops have worked, they have been an incredible value. If I needed one, I'd buy today without any pain at all.
I think people forget this - the 2010 MBP that I sent to my in-laws is still plugging along, the 2012 MBP that my daughter uses for school is still a workhorse - they are 8 and 6 years old respectively and I don't worry about them at all...that said, I did install SSDs in both of them.
 

hallux

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I paid, I think $600+ for a Windows laptop in 2008 or 2009 I think. In 2012 I replaced that laptop with my current MBP (costing a little over 3x as much) that is still running strong. IMO, it's been worth every penny.
 

Audit13

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I think it all depends on the user's needs. If it costs $3,000 to meet those needs, what can you do?

If you're an Apple shareholder, you'd be thrilled that Apple can command these sort of prices. Unfortunately, I'm not an Apple shareholder.
 

jerryk

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I think it all depends on the user's needs. If it costs $3,000 to meet those needs, what can you do?

If you're an Apple shareholder, you'd be thrilled that Apple can command these sort of prices. Unfortunately, I'm not an Apple shareholder.
As a large Apple shareholder I appreciate the prices.
 

OriginalAppleGuy

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Last fall I bought a new MBP to "replace" (still use it) a 2008 MBP. I buy business laptops for the enterprise I work for. They cost $2K-$3K. The difference is quality of parts used. Consumer stuff is not designed to be used 24x7x365 and retain reliability. Unless, you buy Apple. Or, as a consumer, buy the business models.

Also - technology has really slowed down quite a bit. You aren't losing much using something a year or two old for most tasks.
 
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redheeler

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I think people forget this - the 2010 MBP that I sent to my in-laws is still plugging along, the 2012 MBP that my daughter uses for school is still a workhorse - they are 8 and 6 years old respectively and I don't worry about them at all...that said, I did install SSDs in both of them.
It's great your 2010 MacBook Pro is still useful. But I think you might have forgotten that 15" MacBook Pros are $600 more expensive today than they were in 2010, and on top of that less upgradable, less reliable given all the reported keyboard issues.

Are they overpriced now in 2018? A definite yes from me. Were they overpriced in 2010? I really don't think so. But again, the difference is $600 less and a keyboard that easily has 4x the reliability.
 

Glmnet1

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It's great your 2010 MacBook Pro is still useful. But I think you might have forgotten that 15" MacBook Pros are $600 more expensive today than they were in 2010, and on top of that less upgradable, less reliable given all the reported keyboard issues.

Are they overpriced now in 2018? A definite yes from me. Were they overpriced in 2010? I really don't think so. But again, the difference is $600 less and a keyboard that easily has 4x the reliability.
I agree, my 15" 2011 has been a great purchase and I'd love to replace it for another one but I really can't justify the price. It's partly the touch bar's price hike, partly the weak CAD but buying a similar MBP today would cost me 75% more than I paid for it then... And with the keyboard issues, it would probably not last as long.

I'll be getting an iMac instead and when my MBP dies I'll replace it with the cheapest laptop Apple will be selling then.
 

smallcoffee

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It's great your 2010 MacBook Pro is still useful. But I think you might have forgotten that 15" MacBook Pros are $600 more expensive today than they were in 2010, and on top of that less upgradable, less reliable given all the reported keyboard issues.

Are they overpriced now in 2018? A definite yes from me. Were they overpriced in 2010? I really don't think so. But again, the difference is $600 less and a keyboard that easily has 4x the reliability.
Prices for things increase over time. I don’t think a Coca Cola still costs a nickel or whatever. Considering the technology that goes into not only modern computers but mobile phones and other electronics we should consider ourselves lucky that these devices are so cheap.
 
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redheeler

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Prices for things increase over time. I don’t think a Coca Cola still costs a nickel or whatever. Considering the technology that goes into not only modern computers but mobile phones and other electronics we should consider ourselves lucky that these devices are so cheap.
By your logic, a decent notebook in 2018 should cost $12,000, the price of a Macintosh Portable adjusted for inflation. ;)
 
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redheeler

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What’s the difference adjusted for inflation?
Look up an inflation calculator and check for yourself. The one I used adjusted the $1,799 base price of the 2011 15" MacBook Pro to $2,003.80, still almost $400 cheaper than the current Touch Bar models.
 

Glmnet1

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https://imgur.com/a/zj5zA -> MBPs prices over time, adjusted for inflation. Doesn't include the 2017 but it stayed the same.

Data doesn't lie, they are currently quite expensive. Not the most expensive they've ever been but they are high.
 

redheeler

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Make the claim, back up the claim.
It takes maybe 30 seconds to look up an inflation calculator and put in the amounts yourself. I have spent more time than that writing this reply.

The specific one I used is www.usinflationcalculator.com.
$400 more expensive and 50 times better in every single way.
Of course it's better in some ways (Retina display, faster hardware), but arguably worse in others (keyboard reliability, port selection). That's beside the point though, as we're not comparing current MBPs vs. 2011 MBPs now, we're comparing the price and value of each at the time when it was current. MacBook Pros are not the cheapest they have ever been by any measure.
 
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