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Who cares? It's a big Apple Store. Yippee.
I am a long time Mac and iOS user but I could care less.
I would prefer that they get products released on time and product lines are refreshed at a more reasonable rate.
There are many reasons I prefer Apple products and I am firmly entrenched in MacOS, iOS ecosystem but honestly I don't see much product differentiation between Apple and its competitors.
 
That building will stand as a monument, should Apple ever find itself on hard times/broke.

This building really reminds me of the most beutiful, high-tech prison designed to keep the employee in.

Like many prisons where the building walls enclose a central yard to give the inmates fresh air without letting them escape.
 
If I remember correctly, Steve bashed the idea of 'keeping old stuff around' and ended a collection Apple already had.

Steve Jobs hated the idea of a museum

Apple donated its archives to Stanford University a long time ago. IIRC, it was one of the first things Jobs did when he returned permanently as CEO.

Apple Park is the last project Jobs had his hands on, and is very much an Apple product in itself.

In what was probably his last public appearance, a visibly frail Jobs pitched the project in front of the Cupertino City Council.

Big, rich companies have always built corporate headquarters as monuments to themselves, with commissions given to prominent architects. A 50-story skyscraper is more than a little out of place in suburban Cupertino, and much of Silicon Valley, so they construct sprawling campuses instead. Facebook has one, as does Google. The original HP headquarters has some timely architecture of its own, and is nestled in Stanford Research Park (also the home of Xerox PARC and Tesla). GM's Tech Center in Warren is a mid-century architectural masterpiece.

Those lamenting the lack A- or even just E-ring access need to realize these are working buildings, not amusement parks. Be glad that Apple even saw fit to build a $100M+ visitor center when it was under no obligation to.

Most disappointment associated with these kinds of places come from unrealistic expectations, and misguided beliefs. Heck, the beloved Apple products aren't even made there, but on the other side of the world. HQ is just a giant design and administrative center. What's the attraction in that, except for bragging rights?


So?

Whether Jobs hated the idea of a museum or not should not be the arbiter on the issue. Whether Apple donated its archives or not isn't really relevant either. Other corporate museums started from minimal archives too. Companies don't typically collect their products, they sell them. They don't store their files forever either. It's only much later they go into the open market and either buy specimens or seek owner's to loan them for display, like any museum.

My only point here is that an educational museum would be a lot more classy and meaningful than a freaking stand-alone gift shop. If the option is gift shop or nothing, then yes, let Apple have its workspace and tell fans and other customers to visit the Apple Store. You are correct, it's a workplace, not a tourist attraction. But if they are going to place something on campus to attract tourists then a museum or exhibition is better than a crass post card shop -- look honey, I made it to the edge of the Apple office park!
 
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Why anyone would waste their time visiting there is beyond me. It's like the most obnoxious Apple Store conceivable. I guess people are really bored.
I don’t get it either. I wouldn’t use an “Apple Tote Bag” if you gave it to me for free, let alone pay for one. Going out of one’s way, and then spending money at a company swag store is absolutely crazy to me.
 
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Roofs made of carbon fiber. Sigh. No wonder the iPhone X costs $1000. Carbon fiber is really nice looking, light, and strong, but it is extremely costly. If they reduced their use of unnecessary materials, then the prices of products could go down, increasing potential sales.

What a correlation! :eek:
 
Why? It’s like buying a pint glass when you go to your favorite brewery. I bought some stuff at the Sam Adams brewery that they don’t sell anywhere else. Why would this be any different?
It’s not. Paying to advertise for a company is always kinda silly. But in your case, at least you got to tour the brewery and see how they actually make the beer. At Apple all you get is a swag store.
 
Why anyone would waste their time visiting there is beyond me. It's like the most obnoxious Apple Store conceivable. I guess people are really bored.
Well then good job in projecting onto other people. Next time I am in the neighborhood I want to stop in. I’ll bet it’s a beautiful and very feng shui place to be.
 
But is it any quieter inside, my one hate of the Apple stores open plan is how noisy it can be when busy, worse than some food courts in malls!

What do you expect in a store full of people?
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This is like Disneyland for Apple fans. They should offer guided tours to the main building and to the inside park only for real fans that have buy almost all their products. :apple::):apple:

That would be nice.

Back in the days when Apple still assembles their Macs in the USA, it allows tours at their automated manufacturing plants where interested people see how Macs were built. Those were the days.
 
My only point here is that an educational museum would be a lot more classy and meaningful than a freaking stand-alone gift shop...

Yep, imagine trekking all the way to Athens, Greece to see the Parthenon, but you wind-up in a souvenir shop at the foot of the Acropolis. You gaze upwards and maybe catch a glimpse of the Parthenon through the trees. But hey, fluorescent T-shirts!

Admittedly, Apple’s souvenir shop is a cool building (as many Apple stores are) but whoever decided what to put inside that nice building has shown a breathtaking lack of imagination.
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If they did it would be a helluva lot closer to me to visit.
Simple. Find a Apple store near a Starbucks. Voila! The Visitor Center Experience(tm) ;)
 
I don’t get it either. I wouldn’t use an “Apple Tote Bag” if you gave it to me for free, let alone pay for one. Going out of one’s way, and then spending money at a company swag store is absolutely crazy to me.

If you are not an Apple fan, it is understandable.
 
Roofs made of carbon fiber. Sigh. No wonder the iPhone X costs $1000. Carbon fiber is really nice looking, light, and strong, but it is extremely costly. If they reduced their use of unnecessary materials, then the prices of products could go down, increasing potential sales.

The iPhone X doesn't cost $1000 because the visitor center has a carbon fiber roof, its because its the most advanced pocket computer in history. If sales alone were an accurate measure of success, Samsung would blow Apple away. Whether its carbon fiber roofs or platinum ones in the future, Apple's perceived exclusivity is a major driving factor for its customers.
 
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Gosh, I can't be sure, but are you being sarcastic? It’s quaint how some people miss the point that as the largest market cap business with massive resources Apple should be capable of hitting self-imposed targets. I couldn't care less about the new speaker, but I don't like seeing an investment slip up on anything.


I share your frustration with the HomePod, and you raise a terrific discussion point as to why massive resources can't always brute force success in business, but in fairness, you equated the opening of the Visitor's center to other delays.
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Apple donated its archives to Stanford University a long time ago. IIRC, it was one of the first things Jobs did when he returned permanently as CEO.

Apple Park is the last project Jobs had his hands on, and is very much an Apple product in itself.

In what was probably his last public appearance, a visibly frail Jobs pitched the project in front of the Cupertino City Council.

Big, rich companies have always built corporate headquarters as monuments to themselves, with commissions given to prominent architects. A 50-story skyscraper is more than a little out of place in suburban Cupertino, and much of Silicon Valley, so they construct sprawling campuses instead. Facebook has one, as does Google. The original HP headquarters has some timely architecture of its own, and is nestled in Stanford Research Park (also the home of Xerox PARC and Tesla). GM's Tech Center in Warren is a mid-century architectural masterpiece.

Those lamenting the lack A- or even just E-ring access need to realize these are working buildings, not amusement parks. Be glad that Apple even saw fit to build a $100M+ visitor center when it was under no obligation to.

Most disappointment associated with these kinds of places come from unrealistic expectations, and misguided beliefs. Heck, the beloved Apple products aren't even made there, but on the other side of the world. HQ is just a giant design and administrative center. What's the attraction in that, except for bragging rights?
So would I, however the fear of an earthquake keeps me away. Imagine all that glass shattering while you are inside the center.


In a major earthquake you'd be much better off being hit by this shattered glass than most materials. It's chemically tempered glass. You'll be much better off having shattered tempered glass harmlessly fall on you than any traditional material such as concrete, metal, wood, etc, which will be both in a shape and weight, and likely in large enough sections to injure or kill you should it fall on or hit you.
 
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You can (for now) buy Apple Park swag on eBay. One phone call to eBay and it will be over. Get a $40 T-shirt with the ring while you can.
 
Yep, imagine trekking all the way to Athens, Greece to see the Parthenon, but you wind-up in a souvenir shop at the foot of the Acropolis. You gaze upwards and maybe catch a glimpse of the Parthenon through the trees. But hey, fluorescent T-shirts!

Admittedly, Apple’s souvenir shop is a cool building (as many Apple stores are) but whoever decided what to put inside that nice building has shown a breathtaking lack of imagination.
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Simple. Find a Apple store near a Starbucks. Voila! The Visitor Center Experience(tm) ;)


We have 4 in the Minneapolis Metro area......but all are in the southern metro. I wish the would build one up on the Northern side....and who drinks Starbucks? Here in MN, you do Dunn Bros.
 
Whether Jobs hated the idea of a museum or not should not be the arbiter on the issue. Whether Apple donated its archives or not isn't really relevant either. Other corporate museums started from minimal archives too. Companies don't typically collect their products, they sell them. They don't store their files forever either. It's only much later they go into the open market and either buy specimens or seek owner's to loan them for display, like any museum.
You guys can dream all you want however it's a moot point: Apple is not going to build a museum in our lifetimes.

Just because Steve is dead doesn't mean that Apple can now do something he would have disapproved of. His preference to look to the future -- not the past -- is baked into the company culture.

For some companies, building a company museum is not an interest.

Nintendo is 128 years old and doesn't have a company museum. Heck, they don't even have a company store or any retail presence at their nondescript, utterly sterile Kyoto headquarters. Apart from the company name on the building, one can't even tell that this is a video game company.
 
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I took some pictures of opening day with my 7 Plus.

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Panorama of the roof patio with the new building in the background:

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Throwing this in because it shows the P3 gamut. The brightest parts of the red shirts go beyond sRGB into the P3 color space:

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So?

Whether Jobs hated the idea of a museum or not should not be the arbiter on the issue. Whether Apple donated its archives or not isn't really relevant either. Other corporate museums started from minimal archives too. Companies don't typically collect their products, they sell them. They don't store their files forever either. It's only much later they go into the open market and either buy specimens or seek owner's to loan them for display, like any museum.

My only point here is that an educational museum would be a lot more classy and meaningful than a freaking stand-alone gift shop. If the option is gift shop or nothing, then yes, let Apple have its workspace and tell fans and other customers to visit the Apple Store. You are correct, it's a workplace, not a tourist attraction. But if they are going to place something on campus to attract tourists then a museum or exhibition is better than a crass post card shop -- look honey, I made it to the edge of the Apple office park!

I agree that it's a bit lame that an observation point and gift shop serves as the attraction, but it's hardly the only example. I don't see the point in going out of my way to see an office building, but many do, and what Apple has built will probably satisfy them, and others.

However, you can't seem to accept the fact that Jobs, the co-founder of the company, was the ultimate arbiter of whether Apple should create an official museum of its own. On that point, and since, the final decision has been NO.

That doesn't prevent others from undertaking such ventures, as some have already done, and those with a legitimate purpose to truly mine the historical value of Apple's archives are welcome do so by Stanford University.

If you feel so strongly about it, you can establish one of your own. Apple is not standing in the way of anyone doing so.

"Official" museums are often just corporate PR exercises anyway (remember the stories about Samsung's own museum that ignores a lot of history and highlights/misrepresents only their contributions?); independent parties are best able to present the good and bad in impartial exhibitions.

At least with a gift shop, the devoted can leave with a piece of kitsch, or the product that truly represents the company's history, instead of being fed rose-colored propaganda.
 
Holy ****. That would have to be the first building that has turned out to look almost exactly like the renderings. Impressive to say the least.
 
Salisbury and Barcelona, definitely.

We need (or at least, I appreciate) “aspirational” architecture and I do think Apple’s headquarters falls into that category. Buildings can push our thinking and feed our dreams.

What ever happened to designer Marc Newson, hired by Apple a few years ago?
 
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