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Apple Passes Microsoft to Become World's Most Valuable Company Again
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These numbers are measured differently anyway.
Apple has a lot more cash in hand and they sail a tighter ship.
Apple's business is largely retail. Microsoft's business is largely cloud.
Apple's P/E is 30. Microsoft's P/E is 37.
If they had equal P/E, Apple would be miles ahead.
Nvidia's P/E is 74. They are overpriced and a bubble. Jensen is so desperate to keep the price up he is announcing 2026 products that are not even made yet. He'll probably start announcing 2040 products and start saying Nvidia slave robots can replace human workers for a dollar a day. He's worse than Elon. He's the Taiwanese Elizabeth Holmes in a Fonzi jacket.
By programmatic do you mean algorithmic? Either way, who cares? Anyone owning Apple is making bank!
Swap the word Microsoft for Apple and this stands equally as true of Tim Cook's Apple.
Not for long, I am giving AAPL a price target of 300! Apple is making Ai real for people who have only watched 1 or 2 Science Fiction movies in their entire lifetime!
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I disagree with both statements. If you don't like Microsoft, and you don't like Apple, maybe you'd be happier with an Underwood, a Remington an Olivetti, or maybe a Selectric?
It all depends on how much you need for retirement (and where you retire). Everyone has a different number on what is needed for retirement. I am always asking, “what is the number needed?” I bought Apple back in 1997 at $13/share (rather than buying a new Mac) and never sold it. And I bought more shares before year 2000. The amount is worth many millions. However, I never counted it as retirement money and always called it the gambling money. I don’t plan to ever liquidate that Apple stock due to the big tax hit (I have my separate retirement account). I plan to give the apple shares to my adult children (better on taxes), and let them decide how they will use the money. I don’t need the money. PS: I always visit these forums since I enjoy reading everyone’s comments and get perspective of what the community thinks. Motto: “You only loose if you sell.”
All Microsoft need to do is increase fees again by a few dollars. They have the entire enterprise world by the short and curlys with M365. Money for life.
And this was based on them saying that OpenAI is only a small part of their future AI plans, that they're going all in on AI, essentially. Which was the internal motto at Microsoft for the cloud in 2009.
If anything, this should show you how easy it is for a CEO to boost stock based on future promises even with no evidence to show for it. Which explains Tesla being worth 10x more than they should be, at least until people started figuring it out.
Totally, Nvidia was in the right place at the right time but GPUs are not going to be any cheaper to make and their competition isn't just going to sit back and watch. Someone on here claimed that Nvidia should be the most valuable company in the world the other day...there's just nothing that could ever make that make any sense.
I don't know enough about sports to say this, but aren't the Patriots actually a great team? Nvidia is more like a college athlete who people think will do great in pro sports because they're stomping the competition...then they get into the pro leagues and it suddenly becomes apparent that this just isn't true.
Well, I'm 73 YO, and I'd jump out an open window before I went back to work! True, the capital gains are horrendous for long-term Apple & Microsoft holders, and even short term Nvidia holders. I don't need the money, (wife and I have 4 pensions between us), but someday soon, I'm selling a little of the MSFT and getting a REAL nice Audi or BMW!
Yes, it is needed to pump the iAudience... But there is a goox news today: Microsoft is already in first position, so there is space for another article when a$$le will gain again the top position.
Nice that you got to retire at 63 (you are 10 years older than me). I have three more years of work to go. I don’t blame you for not wanting to return back work at 73. Retirement and investing was always near the top of my list and I instilled that into my kids (started their retirement accounts when there were around 16 years old). I did the best I could for my kids by getting them through college without any student loans at at full price (I paid for for 2 Ivy Legaure undergrad degrees and one Ivy League Master degree, there are no merit scholarships in the Ivy Leagues. Everyone is a merit scholar in the Ivy Leagues. Scholarship is based on your income and taxes.). I was lucky to have my kids start off their careers debt free, and now it is up to them. Congratulations for being retired for 10 years, and more years to come. Enjoy your Audi or BMW (how about a Lexus?).
Well done providing for your family! We don't have kids, so basically we're maybe a few years ahead of you, but you'll get there!
We had Camrys for 23 years (quality 5 stars, but booking!), so I don't think Lexus is on the table. Right now, I'm seriously considering a 2024 Volvo S60 Recharge! We were comped one as a loaner while my wife's XC60 was in for maintenance. It's the most comfortable luxury car I've ever driven. And it's 455HP, and 0-60 in 4.3 seconds! If that weren't enough, Volvo will fly you and a guest to Gothenburg, Sweden. and their Overseas Travel Concierge will help book your complimentary core travel package. And there's more! It's about $10K less than a comparable BMW, and over $7K less than an Audi!
I still volunteer at the O'Hare USO twice a month, and it's the most rewarding thing I've ever done. They were there for me and I love being there for them and our active & retired GI's. And since there's no pay, there's no pressure, just great times trading war stories with the boomer geezers I meet every shift!
Interesting story about the Volvo. The trip alone is a nice perk when buying a Volvo.
I also wanted to say, “Thank you for your service.” Some of us appreciate it. You are a patriot and national hero. Thank you again.