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Well, I like flickr because of the 1TB free space. I have tens of thousands of images there and still don't need to pay a single penny for all this.

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Regretfully, phone cameras are still significantly worse than decent MILC or DSLR ones, assuming both are handled by the same (knowledgeable - knowing what "sweet spots" are) person. They just can't deliver the same pixel-level sharpness and dynamic range than a decent dedicated cameras.



Yes, as you do state, for family moments, they're indeed adequate. For more serious shooting, not even the Nokia 808 is sufficient, let alone the iPhone.


There is nothing more serious than a picture of the toddler out in the yard on her first warm spring day to share with the grand parents. Virtually all of those are taken with cell phone cameras these days. For most people the subject of the picture is more important than all of the minutiae that 'enthusiasts' worry about.
 
Exactly. Some of the world best and most iconic photographs are technically nothing to write home about. They aren't the sharpest, they aren't the best exposed. However they capture the moment, the emotion and tell the story. All this focus, pardon the pun, on technical perfection is overrated.


As an example, the iconic photo of the passengers standing on the wings of the airplane in the river was taken by a passenger on a ferry with a cell phone and posted to Twitter before the passengers were rescued.

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Phone cameras suck , it takes a god 3-5 seconds to focus. This is the case where "good enough" is better than "super quality". People will snap family photos with their iphones, but come wedding day they will hire a professional.



No one captures their wedding on an iphone camera... unless they don't care about the pictures I guess


And the couple who can't afford a professional photographer will treasure the pictures of their wedding taken by their friends and family with cell phones as much or more than any other couple will treasure the photographs taken by a professional.
 
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I see it all the time on photography forums. All the kit in the world, and all images are "test" images to demonstrate how sharp it is, or isn't, constant worry about whether it is a good example or not. Lots of dead flies to show off macro, bokeh galore. But no soul or other images. I guess the equipment itself is the hobby of many people.
 
And a pro with a pro camera will take better pictures than a pro with an iPhone. So what's the point?

Most people are not pros. So the iPhone is going to be more than sufficient for most peoples camera needs...
 
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Most people are not pros. Some the iPhone is going to be more than sufficient for most peoples camera needs...

I'm betting, there are a lot of folks like myself who have been taking pictures(film) since they were a wee lad.

Now I have a mix of mid-range and high-range equipment, which not everybody is an amateur nut like myself.

Your statement is absolutely on the mark, but I've missed my fair share of keepers using my iphone; snaps any of my DSLRs would have gotten without an issue.
 
If you're a professional photographer you're not using Flickr to get employers. It's great for prosumers and weekend warriors, and even a quick share for a pro on the job, but not to get employers it to get jobs for a 9-5 shooter.
 
If you're a professional photographer you're not using Flickr to get employers. It's great for prosumers and weekend warriors, and even a quick share for a pro on the job, but not to get employers it to get jobs for a 9-5 shooter.


Of course, how silly of all of us. The arrogance of professional photographers never cease to amaze me.
 
As an example, the iconic photo of the passengers standing on the wings of the airplane in the river was taken by a passenger on a ferry with a cell phone and posted to Twitter before the passengers were rescued.

Yes! But I recall that the truly iconic photo was taken with a DSLR from an apartment as it was happening -with a similar vantage point as Stephen Day from the AP. The person that took that image is a Flickr contact of mine. A lot of news agencies were "appropriating" his image minutes after the views started to skyrocket and before it was "news" and could get crews down to the Hudson. The photo's in my "favorites" but there were too many to go through so that I couldn't show you the original post. I hope he hasn't taken it down. I looked for it elsewhere and I found a lot of people claiming credit for the image. The ripoffs are pretty jagged. His original was uncropped and more powerful because there was nothing but plane, people, and a lot of river all the way to the edge of the image. Maybe he sold the rights and then had to take it down. The image was sharp and stark.

I want an image like this from a phone: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gerb/83683315/in/faves-8685077@N07/
 
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