Apple Patent Application Points to 3D Multi-Touch Manipulation

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    The Baltimore Sun yesterday dug up a relatively recent patent application from Apple describing the manipulation of three-dimensional images on a variety of devices, including such implementations as the iPhone or the company's as-yet-unreleased tablet. Curiously, while the patent application is credited to several Apple engineers in France, the company's name appears nowhere on the application. Documents filed alongside the application on September 28th, 2008, however, list Apple as the holder of the intellectual property based on an assignment from the inventors.

    Speculation regarding 3D graphics in Apple's tablet began circulating after former Google China president Kai-Fu Lee briefly mentioned the technology in passing as part of a blog post disclosing information he claims to have received about the device.
    In order to address this need, the patent application suggests a number of methods of using multiple finger gestures to move screen objects in relation to one another on a three-dimensional basis.

    Apple has long held an interest in bringing three-dimensional display elements to its devices using both perspective-based implementations in two dimensions and more advanced techniques for generating lifelike three-dimensional images, with previous patent applications addressing stereoscopic displays, multidimensional desktops, and "hyper-reality" displays. This new application, however, reveals added research in multi-touch capabilities and portable devices in relation to 3D images.

    Article Link: Apple Patent Application Points to 3D Multi-Touch Manipulation
     
  2. adamw macrumors regular

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    This would be very cool. I am glad that Apple owns this patent and not someone else...
     
  3. MatthewCobb macrumors regular

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    Maybe this is the novel way we'll be interacting with the tablet?
     
  4. zombitronic macrumors 65816

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    Good stuff. If you're going to create 3D environments you better make sure that you can intuitively navigate through them.
     
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    Fun. The guys who actually wrote that patent (at Morgan Lewis) are 200 feet from me.
     
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    Exactly. And don't forget the OTHER special feature of the upcoming tablet, also patented by Apple: in-screen docking of the tablet to create a hybrid desktop/portable once you're home from the road or work...you read it here first. ;)
     
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    I really, really hope that this carries over to the iPhone 3GS model in 4.0. It's time that the interface gets an overhaul, as everyone has copied it already. Just wait another two years, and every phone will have this look and people will praise them for being an iPhone killer. Rinse and repeat.

    This is going to be a game changer. The atmosphere right now is just like it was before the iPhone launch. I can't wait, but probably won't buy the tablet as I'm hoping to upgrade my MBP either this fall or the next spring.
     
  9. M-3 macrumors newbie

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    Multi Dimensional

    This is similar to what I mentioned in a thread yesterday about their other patent involving a multi-dimensional desktop. Could be pretty cool :)
     
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    Go get some details!
     
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    Perhaps more interesting is the mockup of the device:

    Notice the Optical Sensor (camera) at the center top, and the microphone moved to the front left.

    Could this represent a form factor for the next iPhone?
     
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    I was just going to say, doesn't Nokia own the patent for this already? The own the patents for damn near everything, including microwave ovens, velcro, and those plastic wraps at the end of your shoelaces.
     
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    France is now 200' from California? Looks like lunch in Paris for me today!:cool:
     
  14. BabyFaceMagee macrumors newbie

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    This cool video shows some of the potential of a 3d interface if the tablet were to have the ability to track head movement. Worth watching. The good stuff happens a few minutes into it so you might want to fast forward past the 'setup' portion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw
     
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    The patent was written in california. Inventors don't write patents.
     
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    Shouldn't that be "as-yet-unannounced"? Or are we already dinging them for being late in delivering a product they never announced?
     
  17. aamojp macrumors newbie

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    what's interesting is that if you read the patent summary area, 0008, it mentions "telephoning". That brings up two questions then:

    1) is this the new iPhone 4.0 update (are patents created for software?)

    2) will the TabletMac have "telephoning" capabilities?
     
  18. Shall22 macrumors newbie

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    Sun and others have been playing around with 3-d UIs - it's the the latest tech that's 'bubbling under', just like multi-touch was before the iPhone.

    With the number of 3-d patents that Apple has been filing over the last three years, I have little doubt that they intend to dominate this interface and make it their own - again, just like multi-touch.

    The tablet is the perfect opportunity.

    The proximity sensor/camera combo in this filing suggests head-tracking, which would allow a 3-d display without the glasses.

    Just think how popular a device would be that could download and play Avatar or Up in full 3-d.

    Or the opportunities 3-d would give newspaper and magazine publishers, desperate for a new revenue model...

    Or the sheer wonder of a 7mm thick device that appears to have infinite depth when you gaze into the screen.

    10m sales in first year? Easy.
     
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    No, that's not 3D. That's 2D that shows different sides of something as you turn your head. When you stare straight at the screen you'd see 2D.
     
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    i just hope they dont make me wear goggles...:cool:
     
  21. griz macrumors 6502a

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    Is that some sort of Jedi mind trick? By saying I read it here first makes it so?
    I'm thinking I read it first in the same place everyone else read it. On the actual Apple Patent. Or in an article like this from 2 years ago.

    http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/15936/

    I'm still confused by this concept. What advantage is it to have the computer dock inside the display other than to offer a larger display? The computing power inside the tablet can't possibly be adequate as a desktop replacement, so why would you want it inside a desktop form factor?
    If the dock had more power in it and a larger hard drive, then the docking slot would be nothing more than a place to sync the tablet and store it. Seems like an overengineered dock then. Whatever Apple does, they will do it well, and most of us will not have seen it coming. We will oooh and aaah when we see it.
    Unfortunately, there will always be those who will be disappointed. Think about the Gen1 iPhone. It had a handful of apps and lacked a ton of obvious features, yet it went straight to the top. The last 2 years of iPhone innovation has made it what it is now. And the tablet will be the same. The first generation will disappoint many, but those who know Apple will buy it and their satisfaction will increase as they own it.
     
  22. griz macrumors 6502a

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    Head tracking 3D is vastly different from the stereoscopic view you get with glasses. Head tracking 3D requires that your head move side to side to see around objects which would mean that you would need to constantly be moving left and right to get a parallax shift because the same image is still entering both eyes. Stereoscopic 3D with glasses displays 2 different parallax shifted images that each enter your right and left eye separately so your brain can process them into a 3D image.
    If Apple is able to generate a display that can send discrete images to each eye without the use of glasses and without giving the user a headache, then they will have a hit.
     
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    It doesn't have to be that tricky. Don't forget Apple's proclivity for simplicity. Expect easy connectivity for a keyboard and external monitor. It thus becomes a component laptop, answering objections to a $1,000 product that's not a laptop but costs as much as one. Think of it as a reverse-engineered laptop with a removable screen, but one that in tablet mode is so much more than what's formerly been imagined..

    Whether or not the new device runs full OSX, i see this as the start of migration of App Store Apps to Apple's larger products. And that's an exciting prospect.
     
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