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Apple Patent Applications Look Toward Thunderbolt on iOS Devices

KnightWRX said:
I'm almost at the point where I've had it with all these cheap routers/APs. I used to run my home network off a Cisco PIX 501, and I'm eyeing one of these babies nowadays :

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=888898902&vpn=CISCO891W-AGN-A-K9&manufacture=Cisco Canada

Flexibility, power, stability. Screw all these custom firmware flashings, cheap router hardware, barely supported chipsets and crap default OSes. :mad:
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Since when has an x86 platform not been able to replace an embedded device and do a far better job? :)

Recycle an old pc, buy a nic with an intel chipset, run some quality oss, save yourself $1000 and get 'a better' product!
 
Peace said:
How can Apple apply for these patents when Thunderbolt is supposedly an Intel property ?
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They jointly work on it together and you got to think out of box

Maybe they have plans for Intel to produce the mobile processor in the future. I believe that if Apple and Intel work together it would be good for both companies. Apple will gain with faster and better cpus and Intel will gain by achieving lower power demands.

I would love to see Apple replace the slow ARM based cpus with faster Intel cpus - only it needs better power usage.
 
VoR said:
Since when has an x86 platform not been able to replace an embedded device and do a far better job? :)

Recycle an old pc, buy a nic with an intel chipset, run some quality oss, save yourself $1000 and get 'a better' product!
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Nothing you can install on x86 trumps IOS at networking. ;)

It is the 'best' product there is, bar none. No seriously, I've done the custom Linux router thing too. iptables, wpa-supplicant, iwconfig, etc.. etc... screw that. Next time I invest in home networking products, I'm going for it. The Cisco PIX 501 was so easy and wonderful..
 
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DESNOS said:
Thunderbolt hasn't existed long enough to know for sure if it'll have a hard time being adopted. PC manufacturers should start adopting it this year, and Intel is likely to include it on their motherboards (high end at the very least) in the future. You just have to wait and see.
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It is already coming... Lenova is planning a ThinkPad Edge S430 which is Ivy Bridge base and has Thunderbolt.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2398328,00.asp

My guess there is going to many of this type of laptops coming soon.
 
Me of two years ago: I wish I could have FireWire for my iPod

Apple: No, you can't

Me: we'll that's not cool.

Apple of today: maybe you can have thunderbolt for your iPod a few years from now.

Me: that's pointless.....
 
KnightWRX said:
I'm almost at the point where I've had it with all these cheap routers/APs. I used to run my home network off a Cisco PIX 501, and I'm eyeing one of these babies nowadays :

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=888898902&vpn=CISCO891W-AGN-A-K9&manufacture=Cisco Canada

Flexibility, power, stability. Screw all these custom firmware flashings, cheap router hardware, barely supported chipsets and crap default OSes. :mad:
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Actually, that looks a lot like the PVS 4000 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124091) as far as features, only 10 times more expensive.

I specifically did not want a router that was a SlowFi access point - my AP is a separate unit (with all of the router functions disabled) so that I don't have to disturb my router if I want to upgrade my wireless or vice versa. I also want the security barrier of not having my router have an AP (at one point a firmware upgrade on my AT&T DSL modem with AP reset the "disabled" AP to enabled with no security - OMG), so I liked that the PVS4000 has no radios.
 
FireWire provided more power for a faster recharge but Apple dropped it supposedly because the redesigned iPods would be thicker with it. Personally I think the move was political; an appeasement to Intel for early access to their processors. Now miraculously Apple engineers found a way to fit a technology other than USB in iPods again, despite it having more heat dissipation issues than FireWire, which is still a superior standard to USB by the way.
 
Thunderbolt and the coming Apple TV

I suspect Apple is seeking patent protection because it will use the Thunderbollt-equipped next-generation Apple 3 set-top box in combination with intelligent cable capabilities to turn the 27-inch Thunderbolt display into the first instance of the long-rumoured Apple TV. The new box with Thunderbolt connectors and smart cables will work with the display's existing GPU acceleration capabilities to give no-lag performance to the Apple TV apps that provide content, under the voice control of SIRI.

I could be wrong about that.
 
JHankwitz said:
I guess you missed out on freshman science class. All electrical wires warm up when current is passed through them. Basic Ohms Law. The heat generated is inversley proportional to the wire's cross-section. The thicker the wire, the lower the heat generated.
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AFAIK Thunderbolt cables contain electronic parts inside the plugs (for de-/modulation of the signal), which are effectively responsible for the comparably massive heat dissipation.
 
KnightWRX said:
Of course it does, but it's a IOS based router. Not some dinky Linux/VxWorks consumer product. ;)

Guys, you do recognize Cisco's enterprise line-up when you see it right ? enable, show interface GigabitEthernet1/10, show running-config, boot from TFTP, etc.. etc..
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I run IOS on my 10 GbE Catalysts - but have no need for those headaches at home.

A router with hardware VPN for $111, I'll take it and its web interface!
 
KnightWRX said:
Nothing you can install on x86 trumps IOS at networking. ;)

It is the 'best' product there is, bar none. No seriously, I've done the custom Linux router thing too. iptables, wpa-supplicant, iwconfig, etc.. etc... screw that. Next time I invest in home networking products, I'm going for it. The Cisco PIX 501 was so easy and wonderful..
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KnightWRX said:
Of course it does, but it's a IOS based router. Not some dinky Linux/VxWorks consumer product. ;)

Guys, you do recognize Cisco's enterprise line-up when you see it right ? enable, show interface GigabitEthernet1/10, show running-config, boot from TFTP, etc.. etc..
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Yes, of course - All day every day I work with cisco equipment that costs six figure sums. And I stand by my previous comment: even if I was a billionaire without a care in the world about cost/value, I'd be VERY hard pressed not to run pfsense...

Have you ever tried it? Not one of the key words in your posts "iptables, wpa-supplicant, iwconfig, linux, VxWorks" has any relevance :)
 
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