Apple pay and gas stations???

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by flatfoot99, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. flatfoot99 Guest

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    I always pay with credit cards at the pumps and would love a quicker solution. I wonder how this will work with the dangers while working the pumps with a cell phone?? This probably explains why no gas stations are signed up yet.
     
  2. PM-Performance macrumors 6502

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    Watch Mythbusters on the "Dangers of using a cell phone at the pumps"
    Its a non issue. Urban Legend
    There is another one out there with a woman shooting multiple gas cans with a rifle and they do not explode or ignite in the slightest bit.
     
  3. Frasern1 macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah the danger comes from sliding in and out of the car on cloth seats and the build up of static electricity if I remember correctly. With that being said don't some gas stations already have a contactless payment system? I believe its either Exxon or Shell one of them do. Not sure if it uses NFC though and if Apple Pay will be compatible with it.
     
  4. flatfoot99 thread starter Guest

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    Myth or not, its still a policy at all gas stations.
     
  5. OneMike macrumors 603

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    never heard of that policy. Never saw a gas station that took NFC either though, only those speedpass things.
     
  6. flatfoot99 thread starter Guest

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    Its usually on the no smoking sign. Problem is once you change something like that, you set yourself up for a lawsuit. It probably explains why no one is lined up yet. Maybe they can have it where you make the payment from still inside your car?
     
  7. PM-Performance macrumors 6502

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    I have never had anyone say anything to me while doing something on my phone at the pump.
    Oh well, I dont stress it.
     
  8. geoff5093 macrumors 68020

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    I wouldn't say all gas stations. The new gas stations that I see, like the new Cumberland Farms near me, have no such signs. In fact, they encourage you to use their mobile pay app to save 10 cents per gallon by using your phone at the pump.
     
  9. drober30 macrumors 6502a

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    You think Big Oil is going to give some of its profits to Apple... Ha!

    We all have to buy gas anyway. One of the few price fixing monopolies in existence!
     
  10. Menel macrumors 603

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    Gas stations have until Oct 2017 to comply with more secure payment options. More time to breathe than retailers bound to the Oct 2015 date.
     
  11. xcrunner macrumors regular

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    It has nothing to do with them. Apple gets paid by the banks.
     
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    If it reduces the amount of chargebacks/stolen cards, maybe Yes.
     
  13. phx macrumors member

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    The cut is coming from the credit card companies and member banks, not the merchants. Merchant fees remain at what they are now.

    Besides, very few big oil companies have much to do with individual gas stations, as they've sold off the retail side of their businesses a long time ago.

    But Mr. Gas Station Owner most definitely will want you to come in to Apple Pay, as you'll grab a pack of gum, or a coke while you're inside and that's where he makes his $€£¥. There's not much margin in selling petrol.
     
  14. legioxi macrumors 6502a

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    All the ones in the Metro Detroit area have signs banning electronics and phones (in little print buried in a bunch of other rules, not a sign that is noticeable). Attendants don't always yell at people for breaking the posted rules. I see people with their cars running, getting back in their car and even smoking at pumps.

    I'm guilty of getting back in the car in the winter, I always discharge any static on a metal surface away from the pump handle (where the fumes are building up) before approaching it. I've had one gas station say something in the last 15 years.
     
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    What's "Big Oil's" net on a gallon of gas? What's Big Government's?

    But, yeah, this is about merchant fees anyway.
     
  17. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    Source? I've never heard of this policy and I see people using their cell all the time at the pump.
     
  18. cambookpro macrumors 603

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    It'll be there, somewhere.

    This is what they generally look like, in the UK at least:

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    I believe they look like this in the US:

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  19. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    Funny, I've never seen such a sign at a gas station.
     
  20. IllIllIll macrumors 6502a

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    Maybe in your state, but not in mine.
     
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    I bet you this will start changing as the evidence, or lack their of, start piling it up. I've never heard of a gas station exploding or even catching fire due to a cell phone. You are more likely to trigger a flame just by getting in and out of your car since that has been proven to cause flames. Always bugs me to see someone start pumping gas and get back in the car.

    As for the NFC readers, I haven't ran across any in the US, but I saw a ton of them in Ontario Canada. Right on the gas pump. Says Tap to Pay here.
     
  23. 617aircav Suspended

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    My 2 cents. I was a petroleum supply specialist in the army and cell phones were forbidden while working. Some people had them and nothing happened. The fumes can be ignited by static electricity. We were shown a video of a guy answering his phone while standing on top of a tanker. Boom.
     
  24. Frasern1 macrumors 6502a

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    JP-8, now F24, is a lot harder to ignite then regular old gas. One reason we use it.
     
  25. geoff5093 macrumors 68020

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    Static electricity comes from anything, getting out of your car for instance is a big one. I've never experienced a static shock from touching a phone.
     

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