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Apple CEO Tim Cook today shared some details on upcoming Apple Pay providers during Apple's earnings call covering the second fiscal quarter of 2019.

Ticketmaster is set to begin accepting Apple Pay for ticket purchases on the web in the near future, and more than 50 entertainment and sporting event venues are launching contactless tickets this year, including most NFL stadiums.

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New York's MTA transit system is piloting Apple Pay on a couple of lines at the current time, and Cook says Apple Pay will roll out to the rest of the lines in "early summer," which is new information.

Cook believes the introduction of Apple Pay support for transit systems across the U.S. will bring in even more Apple Pay customers who don't currently use the payments service.

Apple Pay transaction more than doubled year over year, and Apple is on track to reach 10 billion transactions in 2019. Apple Pay is available in 30 markets, which Apple expects to expand to 40 markets by the end of the year.

Article Link: Apple Pay Coming to NYC Transit System in Early Summer
 

tmiw

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Cool, I'll be able to use NFC next time I go see a Chargers ga...oh wait. :(

Seriously though, I kinda want to do a trip to NYC now.
 

dontwalkhand

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Cool, I'll be able to use NFC next time I go see a Chargers ga...oh wait. :(

Seriously though, I kinda want to do a trip to NYC now.
LA is getting Apple Pay on their Tap system, which virtual tap cards inside of Apple Pay like OMNY in NYC. This is coming by this fall I believe, and its part of their new TapForce system.
 

nutmac

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Sadly, SF Bay Area will be missing in action because the transit department head is a moron:
“Most of the people don’t even understand or care about all the kinds of things that people are talking about relative to this, that, and the other bell and whistle,” said Andrew Fremier, Deputy Executive Director for Operations at MTC.
 
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coolfactor

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Sadly, SF Bay Area will be missing in action because the transit department head is a moron:

Curious where you got this quote from? I'd like to follow up with him and share my thoughts, even though I'm not even in the US! People with this much close-minded-ness should not be in charge of anything except their belt!
 

mrow

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I can’t wait for Apple Pay and OMNY.

There is one big annoyance though. You swipe your Metrocard for each turnstile on the right since most people are right handed. So the NFC reader is going on the right of each turnstile as well. However most people who are right handed wear their watch on their left wrist. That means if you want to pay with an Apple Watch instead of your phone you’ve got to do some awkward turn sideways and stretch your arm to the other side maneuver to get close enough to the reader.
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What about the busses?

It works on busses too. It’s actually going to allow them to enable you to board from both bus doors, instead of just the front, to speed up boarding. In 2021 you’ll be able to use it on the LIRR and Metro-North. The plan is to also integrate it with PATH, the Roosevelt Island tram, NYC Ferry, and the Westchester and Long Island bus networks.
 

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I can’t wait for Apple Pay and OMNY.

There is one big annoyance though. You swipe your Metrocard for each turnstile on the right since most people are right handed. So the NFC reader is going on the right of each turnstile as well. However most people who are right handed wear their watch on their left wrist. That means if you want to pay with an Apple Watch instead of your phone you’ve got to do some awkward turn sideways and stretch your arm to the other side maneuver to get close enough to the reader.

Moonwalk!
 
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dontwalkhand

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Sadly, SF Bay Area will be missing in action because the transit department head is a moron:
I’m sure you’d still be able to add the clipper card itself to Apple Pay, when Clipper 2.0 rolls out like the OMNY card, and Portland Hop cards. It just wouldn’t have open loop payments, where you can use any credit card.

This I’m ok with.
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What about the busses?
Buses will have the same readers the subway has.
 

jimthing

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Can someone clarify...

In London, in Apple Pay we can use a credit/debit card on public transport, but NOT an Oyster card (a pre-paid travel card) inside of Apple Wallet.
(NB: people continue to use Oyster cards as they can be loaded with things like annual travel at discounted rates.)

Is this new offering for US cities doing the same, or is it actually offering the certain city's travel cards in digital form within Apple Wallet?

The article is unclear. It talks about Apple Pay, while the phone image shows what looks like a travel card inside Apple Wallet.

These are two different concepts. So which is it, one, the other, or both?
 
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ipponrg

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I would prefer a physical OMNY over Apple Pay.

It's easier for me to pull my metro card from my wallet and go swiftly thru the turnstile than to pull out my phone, look down at it via FaceID, swipe up/down to find the right card, then try and wave it in front of the machine.
 

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I would prefer a physical OMNY over Apple Pay.

It's easier for me to pull my metro card from my wallet and go swiftly thru the turnstile than to pull out my phone, look down at it via FaceID, swipe up/down to find the right card, then try and wave it in front of the machine.

Exactly!

I use Apple Pay on underground in London with FaceID and it is a major hassle. The reader is too far down. Thus, I either have to bend down to face the phone or type the pin. Either way it slows down the flow, so people behind me get annoyed. It was so much easier with the TouchID.
 
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jimthing

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Exactly!

I use Apple Pay on underground in London with FaceID and it is a major hassle. The reader is too far down. Thus, I either have to bend down to face the phone or type the pin. Either way it slows down the flow, so people behind me get annoyed. It was so much easier with the TouchID.

You do know you can do it well before you hit the gate. I do Face ID when I'm maybe 4-5th in line, tap and go.

Still, generally I'm forced to use a physical discounted fare Oyster card: why couldn't they make a bloody digital version?! Hence my question above.
 
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dannyyankou

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It works on busses too. It’s actually going to allow them to enable you to board from both bus doors, instead of just the front, to speed up boarding. In 2021 you’ll be able to use it on the LIRR and Metro-North. The plan is to also integrate it with PATH, the Roosevelt Island tram, NYC Ferry, and the Westchester and Long Island bus networks.
Ok, awesome. I was unsure if it was limited to just NYC busses or if the bee-line system in Westchester County would get it too.
 

dontwalkhand

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Ok, awesome. I was unsure if it was limited to just NYC busses or if the bee-line system in Westchester County would get it too.
Any system that currently accepts MetroCard now will accept the new system.
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Exactly!

I use Apple Pay on underground in London with FaceID and it is a major hassle. The reader is too far down. Thus, I either have to bend down to face the phone or type the pin. Either way it slows down the flow, so people behind me get annoyed. It was so much easier with the TouchID.
The OMNY version will be better if you load the OMNY physical card into Apple Pay. No authentication required. Just tap like you would a card!
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Can’t wait for a solution to government ID/driver licenses.
Louisiana was ahead of the game with this, surprisingly ahead of all other states. They have an app called "LAWallet"
Arizona recently passed a law and the governor pushed an executive order to speed up this for Arizona, lets hope its soon. We did just get e-titling for cars where you can sell a car to another person by scanning a QR code. Our buses/trains have an app where you get a virtual pass on your phone, but it still isn't inside of Apple Wallet :(.
 
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idrewuk

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Exactly!

I use Apple Pay on underground in London with FaceID and it is a major hassle. The reader is too far down. Thus, I either have to bend down to face the phone or type the pin. Either way it slows down the flow, so people behind me get annoyed. It was so much easier with the TouchID.

Really? I do all of that on the approach (activate Apple Pay, do Face ID) to the gate and breeze through. Try it. No idea why you're doing it when you arrive, no wonder you're annoying people.
[doublepost=1556698874][/doublepost]I'm not from NYC so wondered how this will actually work? As far as I remember the gates on the subway only have a paper ticket swipe, not any sort of contactless panel? Or are they adding them on?
 
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martyjmclean

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My state accepts contactless/Apple Pay over all public transport (trains, metro, trams, ferries, busses coming soon) and it’s been a life saver when I forget my Opal card.
 

sinsin07

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Louisiana was ahead of the game with this, surprisingly ahead of all other states. snip
Not clear what's surprising with such a small population.
In any regard why shouldn't they be first, is there some rule that says they shouldn't.
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I'm not from NYC so wondered how this will actually work? As far as I remember the gates on the subway only have a paper ticket swipe, not any sort of contactless panel? Or are they adding them on?
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