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rkanaga

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Sep 24, 2015
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I've held off buying a newer iPhone due to the lack of a smart case, but now that Apple has released one the only thing making me hesitate is Face ID. I REALLY like Touch ID, especially the way that it is so seamless with Apple Pay.

I don't like the idea of having to double click the side button, as with some stiffness in my finger i would find this hard. Can anyone tell me whether you can activate it by simply holding the iPhone near the NFC terminal to wake up Wallet, and then looking at the phone to authenticate? Will it work this way as well?

Also Face ID on the iPhone X I tried was a bit slow, is it better on the newer models?

Many thanks
 
Apple Pay on the new models are fast. As the poster above said, set the options properly in settings. Pre-authorize your Face ID by double click the home button with your thumb. You have several seconds to then hold near the terminal.
 
It’s actually a lot easier than you’d think. It’s not awkward. However I usually use my Apple Watch.
 
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For someone like me with small hands and short fingers, it's almost impossible for me to double-click that button on my XS without using two hands. That's fine at home but difficult out and about while juggling phone, purse, keys etc. Fortunately, I have an AW, and more and more stores accept it.
 
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I use my phone with FaceID for Apple Pay. I notice no difference from using TouchID. The card terminals are often placed at such a height that the simple act of raising the phone causes FaceID to do its stuff.

The first couple of times it felt odd, but it’s just a question of adapting to a slight change. After that, it feels normal.
 
Can anyone tell me whether you can activate it by simply holding the iPhone near the NFC terminal to wake up Wallet, and then looking at the phone to authenticate? Will it work this way as well?
It does not work this way. You must press the button to prove intent. That prevents software alone from spoofing it.
 
The new way on iPhone XS to use Apple Pay is essentially the alternative method back when Touch ID was the way to authenticate which you double press power button and scan finger. This time, you double press “power” button and scan face. It is indeed a bit annoying to use, but I think I can cope with this change. Face ID speed is ok.
 
Apple Pay on the new models are fast. As the poster above said, set the options properly in settings. Pre-authorize your Face ID by double click the home button with your thumb. You have several seconds to then hold near the terminal.
It’s more than a few seconds. I prefer Face ID for Apple Pay. it’s faster
 
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I use my phone with FaceID for Apple Pay. I notice no difference from using TouchID. The card terminals are often placed at such a height that the simple act of raising the phone causes FaceID to do its stuff.

The thing is with Touch ID you could double click the button to get touch ID ready but you didn't have to. You could hold the phone near the NFC reader with your thumb resting on the sensor. The phone would light up when you got close enough and the transaction would complete. No double click of the button was needed.

I don't pay with my phone anymore now that I have an Apple Watch.
 
I use the Apple Watch (S3) too for Apple Pay but that still means double clicking a side button, just saying.
 
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The thing is with Touch ID you could double click the button to get touch ID ready but you didn't have to. You could hold the phone near the NFC reader with your thumb resting on the sensor. The phone would light up when you got close enough and the transaction would complete. No double click of the button was needed.

I don't pay with my phone anymore now that I have an Apple Watch.
Personally, I don’t see any difference as both double click and resting a thumb over a button are specific acts requiring precision - however trivial. On one hand, it’s a whisker easier not to have to press on iPhone 7s and 8s, but on the other hand, your thumb (or forefinger) is likely to be already resting in the required position on the FaceID iPhones. Swings and roundabouts.
 
Personally, I don’t see any difference as both double click and resting a thumb over a button are specific acts requiring precision - however trivial. On one hand, it’s a whisker easier not to have to press on iPhone 7s and 8s, but on the other hand, your thumb (or forefinger) is likely to be already resting in the required position on the FaceID iPhones. Swings and roundabouts.

OP said because of finger stiffness they didn't want to double click. Touch ID used to let you get around the double click.
 
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