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etaleb

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Is it possible to find the Apple Pay full credit card number

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Settings > Wallet > Apple Card > Tap on the circle with three dots inside in upper right corner > card details > card information
You need to touch "Additional Card Numbers" from there to see the Apple Pay (and Titanium) last 4 digits. It will not show the full number. The only FULL number visible, is the "Virtual" card # - meant for manual entry on a website, etc.
 
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After going to settings - wallet I only see all my cards listed and there is no circle with 3 dots on upper right. If I click on the card, it shows me all the details but again, no Circle on top right
 
I have an Apple Credit Mastercard and American Express card in the Wallet app. In the app, with Amex, I have the circle with dots and the option to show the card number. But it only shows the last four digits, as others have said.

With the Apple Card, I tap the circle/dots and choose card info. It then authenticates with Face ID and shows the full card number. That's all I need since I carry the physical Amex card with me.

If I go to Settings > Wallet, I see the exact same info but the user interface is different (there's no circle with dots).
 
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Mine is available by tapping the credit card icon in the top right.
 
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Mine is available by tapping the credit card icon in the top right.
Mine shows the same. After tapping on the dots a drop down menu appears with the option to choose Card Details, tapping that brings you to the next screen with Card Information about halfway down. Tapping on that triggers FaceID and brings up all of the card details—complete number and security code.
 
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As for Apple Pay (not just Apple Card):

Apple said:
Apple Pay will change the way you pay. When you add a credit or debit card with Apple Pay, the actual card numbers are not stored on the device nor on Apple servers. Instead, a unique Device Account Number is assigned, encrypted and securely stored in the Secure Element on your iPhone or Apple Watch. Each transaction is authorized with a one-time unique number using your Device Account Number and instead of using the security code from the back of your card, Apple Pay creates a dynamic security code to securely validate each transaction.


By using unique numbers for each instance, card (magnetic strip) skimmers, looky loos, and database breaches (e.g., Air Europa) become practically harmless.
 
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^ but the Device Account Number is always the same, right, and is presented to the terminal as the PAN (card number)?

I say this because sometimes cashiers accidentally give me the merchant copy of the receipt from their terminal, and the PAN is always the same (for the same device).

So a possible answer to @etaleb 's question might be to see if the cashier (for a small store) will let you see the merchant receipt.
 
After going to settings - wallet I only see all my cards listed and there is no circle with 3 dots on upper right.
That’s the problem, you should be going to the Wallet app, not Settings/Wallet. In Wallet you will navigate as posted above to the full number and security code.
 
If I go to Settings > Wallet, I see the exact same info but the user interface is different (there's no circle with dots)
Thanks for that, learned something new. I always just go the Wallet app to see the full card number, didn’t realize you can do that though Settings/Wallet as well👍
 
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^ but the Device Account Number is always the same, right, and is presented to the terminal as the PAN (card number)?
It would seem that is correct.

Apple said:
After your card is approved, your bank, your bank’s authorized service provider, or your card issuer creates a device-specific Device Account Number, encrypts it, and sends it along with other data (such as the key used to generate dynamic security codes that are unique to each transaction) to Apple. The Device Account Number can’t be decrypted by Apple but is stored in the Secure Element—an industry-standard, certified chip designed to store your payment information safely—on your device. Unlike with usual credit or debit card numbers, the card issuer can prevent its use on a magnetic stripe card, over the phone, or on websites. The Device Account Number in the Secure Element is isolated from iOS, watchOS, and macOS, is never stored on Apple servers, and is never backed up to iCloud.

Apple doesn’t store or have access to the original card numbers of credit, debit, or prepaid cards that you add to Apple Pay. Apple Pay stores only a portion of your actual card numbers and a portion of your Device Account Numbers, along with a card description. Your cards are associated with your Apple ID to help you add and manage your cards across your devices.
 
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Is it possible to find the Apple Pay full credit card number

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OP you're not quite clear. By "Apple Pay Credit Card", do you mean Apple Card? Or do you mean a credit card you've added to Apple Pay?

If you mean the Apple Card, then you see via the methods outlined above.

If you mean a Credit Card you've added to Apple Pay, you'll only be able to see the last 4 digits.
 
OP you're not quite clear. By "Apple Pay Credit Card", do you mean Apple Card? Or do you mean a credit card you've added to Apple Pay?

If you mean the Apple Card, then you see via the methods outlined above.

If you mean a Credit Card you've added to Apple Pay, you'll only be able to see the last 4 digits.

Thank you for this post which directly addresses the original poster’s question. Several other posters have also derailed this thread somewhat for a discussion about the mechanics of how the Device Account Number works when using Apple Pay to make credit card payments. That, if I understand the original post, is not the question.
 
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