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Apple pay on the watch

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Diginari

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Apr 10, 2015
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Does anyone know how secure this is going to be? On the phone you need to do your finger print but all of the pieces I've read about the watch says you just need to swipe it.

Is this a little worry to any of you? Is it possible for someone to walk around with a portable device? But I assume they need to be signed up with Apple as a retailer in order to process the transaction so even if someone could 'fish' the watch, I assume they couldn't do anything with it? But saying that, why do they bother with the finger print on the phone if that is the case.

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Apple pay on the watch

It won't work if the phone isn't nearby. So i don't think it's a problem unless a magician has done the classic watch removal trick at checkout.
 
Diginari said:
Does anyone know how secure this is going to be? On the phone you need to do your finger print but all of the pieces I've read about the watch says you just need to swipe it.

Is this a little worry to any of you? Is it possible for someone to walk around with a portable device? But I assume they need to be signed up with Apple as a retailer in order to process the transaction so even if someone could 'fish' the watch, I assume they couldn't do anything with it? But saying that, why do they bother with the finger print on the phone if that is the case.

J
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On the watch you need to select the card, you can't do that by mistake. Also as soon as you take the watch off you wrist it's all locked.
 
zed2 said:
On the watch you need to select the card, you can't do that by mistake. Also as soon as you take the watch off you wrist it's all locked.
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That's ok then, I had a vision of me walking past someone else's checkout at McDonalds and my watch being close by and paying for their lunch haha
 
1. We know from reviews that Apple Pay works away the phone.

2. You have to double-click the button to enable it. And it only works within a few inches of the merchant terminal.

What I wish, is that one of the reviewers had tried inserting something skin-like in reflectance under the watch, to see if it recognized being moved to another wrist while something was still in close proximity.

Or at least do a check how long it takes to even notice it's off a wrist.
 
kdarling said:
What I wish, is that one of the reviewers had tried inserting something skin-like in reflectance under the watch, to see if it recognized being moved to another wrist while something was still in close proximity.

Or at least do a check how long it takes to even notice it's off a wrist.
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...or to see if it would still function if the hand was chopped off at the wrist...
 
i have read that once you take it off your wrist it locks with a passcode? I could be wrong?

How does it know I took it off my wrist? Just the sensors on the back?
 
DreamPod said:
...or to see if it would still function if the hand was chopped off at the wrist...
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Gonna need an (unwilling) volunteer for that :eek:

LowesChevy48 said:
How does it know I took it off my wrist? Just the sensors on the back?
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Most likely, which raises the question of how often it checks.

Checking constantly would be a waste of battery.

Reviews say that it checks heart rate every ten minutes. Perhaps that's the proximity check as well, or perhaps it checks more often.

This is why I wish more technically minded reviewers had one.
 
kdarling said:
...Most likely, which raises the question of how often it checks.

Checking constantly would be a waste of battery.

Reviews say that it checks heart rate every ten minutes. Perhaps that's the proximity check as well, or perhaps it checks more often.

This is why I wish more technically minded reviewers had one.
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It may be that with certain accelerometer moments the sensor 'flashes' just enough to 'see' skin contact, but not enough for a HR reading and excessive battery depletion.
kdarling said:
....What I wish, is that one of the reviewers had tried inserting something skin-like in reflectance under the watch, to see if it recognized being moved to another wrist while something was still in close proximity.

Or at least do a check how long it takes to even notice it's off a wrist.
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Yes, and lots of other stuff I want tested too. :eek: However we don't have long to wait (hoping for the 24th) and we can test. I betting with HIGH security on the line Apple has more than tested thus.
 
Subway here fixed their terminal so it takes ApplePay again. Trouble is, they keep it on their side of the counter. This will be awkward to reach over the counter, arm facing down, paying with the watch. Not saying I wont, but some places need to consider options for these new methods of payment.

I have seen the statements from Apple saying you will put in a code once in the morning (or whenever) you first put the watch on. It will stay unlocked until you remove it from your wrist. I'm guessing its sensitive enough to know its no longer in electrical contact with your skin. My touch ID button on my phone can detect my finger just sitting there and I doubt it uses any real battery to do it. I don't see any reason why the watch would not be able to tell when the back is grounded to your skin and when its not. If you wear your watch really lose I wonder if you will have "connection" issues but in general I would guess it knows as soon as you take it off.
 
I noticed that our McDonald drive thru advertises Apple Pay, but it's actually inside their drive thru window next to their register where you can't reach it. What a bunch of bozos.
 
Bryan Bowler said:
I noticed that our McDonald drive thru advertises Apple Pay, but it's actually inside their drive thru window next to their register where you can't reach it. What a bunch of bozos.
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The terminal is on a long cord, and they'll hand it to you to use Apple pay.
 
Bryan Bowler said:
I noticed that our McDonald drive thru advertises Apple Pay, but it's actually inside their drive thru window next to their register where you can't reach it. What a bunch of bozos.
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Jack in the Box has a card and NFC reader installed outside their drive thru windows. I wonder why McDonald's hasn't done the same. Although I think I remember Apple specifically mentioning that Apple Pay wouldn't work with Jack in the Box's readers. I don't know if that's still the case. I haven't tried.
 
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