Apple Pay Surprise

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  1. macdragonfl macrumors 6502

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    I went to Whole Foods left my phone in car. I used AW to pay it went through fine. I did not realize until i got in the car. I was way out of range of bluetooth and very far out in the parking lot. Only thing i can figure out is the phone and watch must have connected though Xfinity hotspot. Any other explanations ? Running os3 beta 6
     
  2. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    Apple Pay does not require cellular or wifi connectivity.
     
  3. starbright01 macrumors member

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    Was there a green cloud when you pulled up glances?
     
  4. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    That's irrelevant because Apple Pay on the AW will work without iPhone or wifi. In fact, Apple Pay does not require cellular or wifi connectivity on either iPhone or AW.
     
  5. macdragonfl thread starter macrumors 6502

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    so you could use and leave phone home?
     
  6. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    Yep.
     
  7. starbright01 macrumors member

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    I'm not sure why it wouldn't need a Internet connection but ok? Lol
     
  8. skinned66 macrumors 65816

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    You're fine being out of Bluetooth range as long as you don't take the watch off.
     
  9. macdragonfl thread starter macrumors 6502

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    learn something new everyday, would have thought it needed a internet connection.
     
  10. Bbqthis macrumors 6502a

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    Same way your card doesn't need an internet connection. The watch generates the token on device.
     
  11. starbright01 macrumors member

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    That's not very comforting considering if someone got robbed or their watch went missing, then if you didn't have a password set or they guessed it then it world be so easy just to rob the person blind goin to store to store...
    Good to know... I won't be putting Apple Pay on my Apple Watch because theirs no fingerprint scanner to confirm its really the owner.
     
  12. macdragonfl thread starter macrumors 6502

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    You have to set a password to use apple pay on watch.
     
  13. Roque1128 macrumors regular

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    As far as I know, the Watch won't let you have Apple Pay unless you have a password set up. At least it wouldn't let me with my BOA account.
     
  14. starbright01 macrumors member

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    Well that's good, but it's not that hard to guess a password lol
     
  15. macdragonfl thread starter macrumors 6502

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    From what I gathered in this thread is once it goes off your wrist it needs to connect to the phone again to work plus enter password.
     
  16. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    Care to guess my password then?
     
  17. starbright01 macrumors member

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    Obviously it would take several tries, but it wouldn't be hard someone you knew. I used to guess my moms passwords all the time when she would lock me out of things. lmfao
     
  18. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    I'm not too worried about my wife or family members stealing from me.
     
  19. Newtons Apple macrumors P6

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    Several tries? :p
     
  20. Recognition macrumors 6502

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    In that case it's not hard to guess a PIN number too then...
     
  21. starbright01, Aug 31, 2016
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    Concidering it's only 4 digits usually yup, but I hardly use my card in public or even keep with me because I really only use it for monthly payments.

    This is why Apple enabled 6 digit codes.

    Most people's password are usually high digit, low digit, high digit, low digit or reverse, or something stupid like 9876, or 7654
    I'm not sure why my teacher taught us this in school but often it's about trying a bunch of different consistency of numbers & how many different ways can you use those numbers obviously.
    Differently the most interesting teacher I had. Lol

    & if you know the person you can Probly think up a couple Favorite words or names for complicated passwords for things like Apple ID and one letter has to be capital which most likely is the first letter and probably ether 2 digit or 4 digit code
     
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    We are all lucky you are a good person you could get rich with your advanced knowledge of cryptography
     
  23. Nell, Aug 31, 2016
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    A four digit passcode for the watch is the same as a credit/debit card PIN making Apple Pay on my watch as secure as getting my card out if my wallet, physically putting it in the reader and entering my PIN (but more secure than just tapping my card on the reader). I used my watch to pay in the supermarket this evening; I had my phone on me but the battery had died.

    I often stick with the randomly generated PIN I get sent one with a bank card the one for my watch is a section of a phone number from somewhere I lived quite a long time time ago. I think one of my friends, but only one, would guess it.
     
  24. luckydcxx macrumors 65816

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    Seriously? How about someone steals your wallet and swipes your credit card?

    It is much more secure on the watch, you do need a password set. I think you have a much higher probability of your actual credit card going stolen and used then someone stealing your apple watch, guessing your password, going to a store that accepts apple pay and making a purchase all before you call to cancel you card.
     
  25. Thai, Sep 2, 2016
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    On AW, you can set COMPLEX PASSCODE. It does NOT have to be 4 digit. I have 9 digit passcode for my watch.

    And you can also set so that AW erases data after 10 passcode tries.
     

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