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Yup!

Poland is way more ahead in payment division than German, that's for sure.

I use ApplePay with Boon in Germany. NFC is installed at most petrol stations (even their toilets) and most food discounters (ALDI etc), so it's no problem to shop in Germany with ApplePay.

The problem is that the blue "leading" Deutsche Bundesbank currently wants to keep this means of payment in the background. This can be seen very well on their press page. This is the only reason ApplePay is hardly known in Germany, technically it works almost everywhere here.
And this is probably also the reason why Apple has to master great challenges with the stupid German bank executives in order to reach an agreement.

I believe that all countries in the world depend only on the few supervisory boards of banks on this issue. Technically it is already solved almost everywhere.

Any country that is added will weaken the old faction of preventers.
I congratulate Poland, Ukraine and Norway.
 
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Partly true I guess. The HomePod is unavailable. Apple Watch was released in the fall after US release. iPad in December 2010. iPhone not until 3G. On the other hand, nowadays Norway is without exception on the comparatively short list of countries (short compared to the number of countries in the world, at least!) to get iPhones on launch day.

I wonder if the delayed launch of Apple Pay in this country – where payment with debit card on terminals was standard payment at a time when the US still mostly used checks and taxi drivers in continental Europe would only accept hard cash – has to do with an extremely popular payment service called Vipps. You create a user on your telephone number and connect a payment card to it (all - literally, all - Norwegian banks large and small are connected). Any time you want to split a bill at a restaurant, want to pay back or collect any small or large sum of money to or from someone, want to contribute to a charity on a stand outside the grocery store or pay to enter your local school band’s lottery or pay at any flee market, buy a waffle or stay the night at one of the national hiking society’s mountain cabins, 3 out of 4 Norwegians use Vipps. You can connect and switch between any number of connected cards from any Norwegian bank. You can pay with it on web shops and in-app. You can pay bills with it if your creditor connects to the service. Your complete journey, by ferry, train, air, taxi can be payed using Vipps. You create a user group for all activities on your weekend trip or vacation and let the app calculate how much you owe each other as you add expenses over time. In short, you use it to shift money any time there would be no terminal involved, or you have the choice between the terminal and Vipps, or when the service provider has ditched the terminal altogether (that is, payment cards) and uses only Vipps (that is, your telephone number). Using it is free of charge. It is ubiquitous.

I haven’t touched cash in a decade and a half.

Yes paying using Vipps to another individual or business works fine. However Vipps In-Store payment works using a proprietary Bluetooth standard, similar to MobilePay in Denmark and CurrentC in the US does not work everywhere contactless payments are accepted, I have never been able to find a store that accept Vipps In-Store so I look forward to Apple Pay and have been waiting since day 1.
 
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Ukrain???? They maybe have 5 card terminals and I think most of them don't even have NFC. In western Europe (germany, belgium, netherlands) for example you can pay using NFC at every store in the city, why should it take so long??

What? Here in Ukraine we have NFC terminals everywhere. Google Pay launched like 6 month ago and is pretty popular right now.
 
I don't think apple pay is having the impact it is supposed to. And to be honst, i never use it myself... even though it is technically a great thing. But i usually just hold my card to the NFC reader, which works just as well.. and doesn't look as geeky.

And here are some situations when Apple Pay works better:

- contactless card payments are usually limited to a small transaction amount for security reasons (20-30€ in Europe), as anybody who has your card can use it without any form of authorisation; Apple Pay does not have this limit as it needs your fingerprint/face to work.
- there are devices that allow remote swiping of your contactless card details, which you cannot do with Apple Pay. See this article, for example: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-24743920

So I routinely disable the standard contactless functions of my card, but keep it linked to Apple Pay.
 
I use ApplePay with Boon in Germany. NFC is installed at most petrol stations (even their toilets) and most food discounters (ALDI etc), so it's no problem to shop in Germany with ApplePay.

The problem is that the blue "leading" Deutsche Bundesbank currently wants to keep this means of payment in the background. This can be seen very well on their press page. This is the only reason ApplePay is hardly known in Germany, technically it works almost everywhere here.
And this is probably also the reason why Apple has to master great challenges with the stupid German bank executives in order to reach an agreement.

I believe that all countries in the world depend only on the few supervisory boards of banks on this issue. Technically it is already solved almost everywhere.

Any country that is added will weaken the old faction of preventers.
I congratulate Poland, Ukraine and Norway.
I wasn't talking in a technical aspect but just as you mentioned, political, business aspects are messed up in Germany.

I was paying with Apple Pay in Poland about 2 years ago with my UK credit card. So it's not only about infrastructure but about banks' willingness to share (and as we've seen Australian banks, it's rather difficult).
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I just spent 2 weeks in Poland, used Apple Pay everywhere - bars, restaurants, tram tickets, taxis, even tapped a bank machine with Apple Pay to withdraw cash - the list is endless. The merchants are ready.
I know right! That's why the resistance from the banks was so irritating.
 
Ukrain???? They maybe have 5 card terminals and I think most of them don't even have NFC. In western Europe (germany, belgium, netherlands) for example you can pay using NFC at every store in the city, why should it take so long??
I regret to disappoint you but it seems that you have a bit of stereotyped view on a situation with banking/payment technologies in Ukraine. In terms of internet/mobile banking services, local banks are in some ways even more advanced than EU banks. In terms of terminals you are wrong as well. According to statistics of the largest retail bank of Ukraine, 85% of all terminals on the market(not only from the Bank) support NFC payments (Visa paywave, Paypass from Mastercard). Approximately 45% of all retail card transactions in the country are contactless.
BTW, Google Pay launched in Ukraine in November 2017, so it is not a surprise that Apple is coming to the market as well. It was only a matter of time.
 
I don't know about Benelux, but in Germany?? Sorry, I live now 10 years in Poland and NFC is ubiquitous. You can even buy a ticket in a bus with NFC. In Germany to the contrary in many many shops or restaurants all you can do is pay cash or maybe with their own EC cards (pin and chip). So I totally understand Apple.
I’m living in Germany and use Apple Pay (via Boon) regularly. Most of the bigger supermarket/grocery chains (Edeka, Rewe, Kaufland, DM, Rossmann, Aldi, ...) have had NFC compatible terminals for quite some time now, many gas stations as well and also some smaller stores although their cashiers often don’t know about this feature. Just keep an eye out for the NFC symbol. :)
 
And here are some situations when Apple Pay works better:

- contactless card payments are usually limited to a small transaction amount for security reasons (20-30€ in Europe), as anybody who has your card can use it without any form of authorisation; Apple Pay does not have this limit as it needs your fingerprint/face to work.

MY experience says this statement is INCORRECT - both Apple Pay and the physical contactless pay card are subject to the SAME limited transaction amount.
 
MY experience says this statement is INCORRECT - both Apple Pay and the physical contactless pay card are subject to the SAME limited transaction amount.

Might vary by country/bank, but I routinely pay 50-60€ while shopping with Apple Pay, whereas the contactless card transactions are limited to 20€.

Besides, you can pay with Apple Pay in Apple’s own physical stores and many other physical & online shops, where the transaction amounts could easily exceed these limits.
 
General guidelines from Apple Pay Support -

About limits when using Apple Pay in stores

In some countries and regions, if your transaction exceeds a certain amount when paying in stores with Apple Pay, you might need to enter your PIN. In some cases, you might need to sign a receipt or use a different payment method.

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT207435
 
So I live in this small country, you’ve probably never heard of it, which is called The Netherlands. Will I ever use Apple Pay? No idea. Where’s HomePod? Who knows. We do have three Apple Stores, so that’s nice.
That's more than in Austria. We haven't had an Apple store till 2018. The Apple Store concept was basically a franchise. That said, I never needed one.
Also, "our" start-up bank N26 moved from AT to DE due to overregulation in AT. So, rest assured, it can be worse than in NL.
 
Ukrain???? They maybe have 5 card terminals and I think most of them don't even have NFC. In western Europe (germany, belgium, netherlands) for example you can pay using NFC at every store in the city, why should it take so long??
I can say you are wrong. As a ukrainian I used google pay from its launch in my country. When I was in Europe like a tourist, I have visited a plenty of countries. Poland, Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium. And you know what? Country where I really could pay with NFC everywhere was Poland. And in the store right in the center of Berlin I couldn`t pay with it. If talking about Ukraine, when Android Pay was launched, in most stores people didn`t understand how do I want to pay. But then the new store in my city started to accept Google pay. The supermarket near my home, fastfood restaurants, my favourite cafe, cinemas, gas stations. Everybody supports NFC now.
 
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And you know what? Country where I really could pay with NFC everywhere was Poland. And in the store right in the center of Berlin I couldn`t pay with it.

You are so on the money about Poland - contactless pay at every turn.

Hmmm ... if you're referring to KaDeWe as the store right in the centre of Berlin - I've never had a problem with them and they've seen a lot of my money. I wonder if you were over the 'tap' limit? Although saying that I don't know what the 'tap' limit is in Germany - I've come close to €100 (using Apple Pay) but never over, and it went through.
 
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You are so on the money about Poland - contactless pay at every turn.

Hmmm ... if you're referring to KaDeWe as the store right in the centre of Berlin - I've never had a problem with them and they've seen a lot of my money. I wonder if you were over the 'tap' limit? Although saying that I don't know what the 'tap' limit is in Germany - I've come close to €100 (using Apple Pay) but never over, and it went through.
I don't really know what exact store was it but I don't think buying a cola is over the limit
 
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