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I've been using iTunes since autumn 2003 when I got a PowerMac G5, and looking at the song with the highest play count in my library, I've played that song 669 times. This would mean that if I had been using Apple Music this entire time, the record label/band (Coldplay) [Yeah, go ahead and judge] would have received $1.34 from my enjoyment of this song (using the .2 cents listed in the article) which is about on par with me just buying it outright from the iTunes store (which I did). For most music I buy, I don't listen to the song nearly this many times, so I can definitely see why some artists aren't big fans of the whole streaming concept.

You are calculating using the free month trial rate.....
 
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How generous...
1 $ per 404 streams.
Well, technically you never own the song, so as long as you listen to it 404 times before you die, then the artist got more than they would have from just buying the song for $0.99, unless they died before that happened. I don't drive excessively, but there's a few songs on the radio I've probably heard a hundred or so times just within a few months, i.e. Uptown Funk.
 
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Exactly. It will only benefit T-Mobile customers. But I'm already invested in Google Music.

Likewise. Completely happy with it, plus the Music Manager program effortlessly keeps my computer library synced with my cloud library. iOS app works great and can download to my i-device anything I want/need offline.

Anything Apple does with music has been un-intuitive, quirky and buggy. I think the first YEAR should be free while they work on bringing out a stable product.
 
But what counts as a "stream"? If the song is 3:45 long, does a stream count only if the user listens to all 3:45?...or what about 3:30? Or 1 minute? I rarely listen to 100.00% of any song...whether on my iPod or radio...I've had this listening habit for 30+ years. This topic is similar to the "count" feature of iDevices and iTunes...you have to listen to 100% of the song in order for the count to increase...drives me nuts...it should be if you listen to more than 50% of it (or gasp! make it configurable)
 
Apple will serve billions of songs streamed daily while betting on after 3 months they will get subscribers. They will be paying out quite a bit upfront. If you think only millions of songs will stream per day then you never use Apple's Radio feature.
 
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Does Apple understand yet that we have data caps of 2GB for most people and that streaming isn't really an option?

They probably get a kickback from the carriers.

Some people have less than that as a data cap, some have more.

I stream Pandora all the time in the car (which has video ads) and update my apps over the air (and podcasts) and I rarely go over 2.5GB.
 
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I've been using iTunes since autumn 2003 when I got a PowerMac G5, and looking at the song with the highest play count in my library, I've played that song 669 times. This would mean that if I had been using Apple Music this entire time, the record label/band (Coldplay) [Yeah, go ahead and judge] would have received $1.34 from my enjoyment of this song (using the .2 cents listed in the article) which is about on par with me just buying it outright from the iTunes store (which I did). For most music I buy, I don't listen to the song nearly this many times, so I can definitely see why some artists aren't big fans of the whole streaming concept.

Edit: As pointed out later in the thread, I guess I was calculating this using the free period rate. So I guess you can ignore what I said and I'll go back to lurking.
Plus it says an additional .047 cents might be there. So, 669 could be 165 cents.

Also, you're saying Coldplay would be receiving about the same from you buying it outright. In reality, they make about $.89 from a $1.29 song sale (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-new-economics-of-the-music-industry-20111025?page=2)

So even with the idea of it being during only the trial process, they still would have made about twice as much! Not too shabby.

P.s. I love Coldplay.
 
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Apologies for being a little off topic but a do have two questions:
1. Does the free trial begin at launch and end three months later regardless of when you sign up, or could I sign up, say this November, and get three months?
2. Any news of Sonos support?
 
To everyone saying that is cheap....

So in Spotify's first year, they had 13 billion downloads. Divide that by the free period of 3 months...(13 bil/4) and you get 3,250,000,000 streams...multiply by 0.02 and that is $65 million worth of free music. One could argue that Apple will crush this given everyone who has an iPhone will catch on. Mind you these are year ONE numbers for Spotify. By the end of the year, there will be around 300 million active iPhones. Let's say 1/6th of those use Apple Music. 50 million users. 65 streams a person is all that would take.
 
Well that sounds like something I would be interested in. How about Apple lets me pay them 0.5 cents per song I stream instead of paying a monthly subscription and they are making a 100% margin and I am happy because I can control my costs
 
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Can someone explain this to me? I don't see the big deal. This is a new service, so what were the artists losing out on if the service was free for the first three months aside from exposure? So when it does become a pay model, if anything, they're going to be more popular- and make more money.
 
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