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Luba

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The new iPad Air can use the Pencil 1 and the Logitech Crayon, but can't use the Apple Pencil 2. I'm thinking of getting the new iPad Air since I'm thinking I don't need ProMotion that comes with the iPad Pro. ProMotion is for advanced gaming, mainly?

Anyway, it would be great if the new iPad Air would also take the Apple Pencil 2, but I'm not an artist and want to use the iPad to take "handwritten" notes that I could, as an option, use Optical Character Recognition software to turn my notes into a Word or Pages document. Is the Logitech Crayon or Apple Pencil 1 good for my use case? The Logitech Crayon is the least expensive.
 
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sracer

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The new iPad Air can use the Pencil 1 and the Logitech Crayon, but can't use the Apple Pencil 2. I'm thinking of getting the new iPad Air since I'm thinking I don't need ProMotion that comes with the iPad Pro. ProMotion is for advanced gaming, mainly?

Anyway, it would be great if the new iPad Air would also take the Apple Pencil 2, but I'm not an artist and want to use the iPad to take "handwritten" notes that I could, as an option, use Optical Character Recognition software to turn my notes into a Word or Pages document. Is the Logitech Crayon or Apple Pencil 1 good for my use case? The Logitech Crayon is the least expensive.
Other than being the latest edition of the Pencil, there really is nothing substantively different between using the Pencil 1 and Pencil 2. Yes, charging methods are different and the Pencil 2 has support for tapping...(which many apps still have not been updated to support that)

I've been using the Pencil 1 for 3 years (2 with the 12.9 iPad Pro, 1 and counting with the 2018 iPad) heavily each day for note taking. It works great. I've also tested the Crayon (which I bought for my elderly mom to use on her 2018 iPad)

As for your needs, both will work well but it really comes down to how each device feels in your hand. Pick the one that feels comfortable and you can't go wrong.
 
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lajollaguy

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Having used both the pencil 1 and 2 for some time, I find the pencil 2 a significant improvement. The attachment (and charging) is so much more convenient. The pencil 2 is always available - I leave it attached to the iPad Pro. I was always loosing the earlier pencil, forgetting where I'd put it down. The tap function is also so natural. I use apps such as Noteshelf all the time, and it's so convenient to tap the pencil and erase.
 

gwhizkids

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Having used both the pencil 1 and 2 for some time, I find the pencil 2 a significant improvement. The attachment (and charging) is so much more convenient. The pencil 2 is always available - I leave it attached to the iPad Pro. I was always loosing the earlier pencil, forgetting where I'd put it down. The tap function is also so natural. I use apps such as Noteshelf all the time, and it's so convenient to tap the pencil and erase.
Its that tap to erase feature that has me going towards the 2. Seems like Apple missed an opportunity in the original by not including the erase feature at the top, like a real pencil. Seems like a small RF chip up there could have done the job. But I'm not an EE, so maybe there's more to it than that. I really hope it was not omitted simply a way to develop a market for the 2nd gen version.

As for other features, is there any difference anyone is noticing about the "feel" of the Pencil 2 on the screen vs Pencil 1? Is it a more nature writing experience?
 

JBGoode

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Its that tap to erase feature that has me going towards the 2. Seems like Apple missed an opportunity in the original by not including the erase feature at the top, like a real pencil. Seems like a small RF chip up there could have done the job. But I'm not an EE, so maybe there's more to it than that. I really hope it was not omitted simply a way to develop a market for the 2nd gen version.

As for other features, is there any difference anyone is noticing about the "feel" of the Pencil 2 on the screen vs Pencil 1? Is it a more nature writing experience?

Tap to erase is more efficient than flipping the pencil over isn't it? I would have to say that in this case, I definitely prefer function over form. Apple made the right choice in my opinion. Having to rotate the pencil every time I wanted to erase would get annoying knowing it could be done more efficiently. Maybe I'd feel different if it was introduced as such.
 
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lajollaguy

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May 4, 2015
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Its that tap to erase feature that has me going towards the 2. Seems like Apple missed an opportunity in the original by not including the erase feature at the top, like a real pencil. Seems like a small RF chip up there could have done the job. But I'm not an EE, so maybe there's more to it than that. I really hope it was not omitted simply a way to develop a market for the 2nd gen version.

As for other features, is there any difference anyone is noticing about the "feel" of the Pencil 2 on the screen vs Pencil 1? Is it a more nature writing experience?

I didn't detect any difference in feel on the bare screen. However I've installed the icarez screen protector, mainly for the improved feel it gives to the pencils. Has a more paper-like feel when using the pencil, sort of slightly rougher, and the antiglare is nice, too. It does reduce the absolute crisp view of the screen.
 

kurosov

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ProMotion is for advanced gaming, mainly?

No, not really.

Pro Motion is there specifically to help with the pencil when using it in s professional creative environment. While basic or hobby use of the pencil would suffice with a lower refresh rate the higher refresh capable displays in the iPad Pro mean the strokes can more easily keep up with the pencil, improving accuracy and efficiency.
 

crashnburn

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Other than being the latest edition of the Pencil, there really is nothing substantively different between using the Pencil 1 and Pencil 2. Yes, charging methods are different and the Pencil 2 has support for tapping...(which many apps still have not been updated to support that)

I've been using the Pencil 1 for 3 years (2 with the 12.9 iPad Pro, 1 and counting with the 2018 iPad) heavily each day for note taking. It works great. I've also tested the Crayon (which I bought for my elderly mom to use on her 2018 iPad)

As for your needs, both will work well but it really comes down to how each device feels in your hand. Pick the one that feels comfortable and you can't go wrong.

Pencil Gen 2 & compatible iPads seems to have lots of work - good & bad - alternatives for Stylus.

Cant seem to find any for Pencil Gen 1 replacement/ alternative.

I am wondering if there is any overlap gen that work in both buckets outside of the Zagg / WC Pick
 
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