Apple Pencil 2 Falls to New Record Low Price of $79 on Amazon

[entropys]

try what i said.. just, try it. pick the pencil, write continuously for 15minutes, using apple notes, then tell me what you think about it.

Gave it a go. Here is how it went:
Start at 80% @ 12.14pm AEST.
80 % at 12:15pm
Doing some random text, deleting then starting again after deleting it, never thought I would write blah blah blah that much.
79% @ 12.17pm
78% @ 12.21 pm,
77% @ 12:25pm
76% @ 12.28pm
76% @ 12.30pm

Hand now tired.

i must say that is slightly quicker than in MS Notes or Nebo, although I confess I never really checked. While it could be better, not that bad IMHO Considering it is getting a fair bit of a workout with all that pen drawing, handwriting recognition and conversion to text.

 

[Neepman]

Can they be Find My yet? Gone through about 7 of them with kids school

I would have been allowed to lose one. Upon loss number two I would have had a beating. The good old days of parenting!

 

[Muzzakus]

I would have been allowed to lose one. Upon loss number two I would have had a beating. The good old days of parenting!

The little ***** need it as part of their school equipment, what you gonna do. Why aren’t they locked to a device, find my, etc. More inexcusable than little kids losing ****.

 

[Colin56]

For info, in the UK the link in the post takes you to an Amazon UYK page featuring a refurbished / renewed version of AP2, sold through Amazon by 'The Renewed Store'. So, unlike our US friends, we Brits get a lousy, second hand, rejected piece of kit , still at a rip off price. Not so long ago Amazon UK were knocking out brand new AP2 for around GBP 90, so this is a pretty poor bargain. Moral of the story: already look at the seller's ID on Amazon. And don't take MR's links at face value: they are entirely US facing.

 

[nsklaus]

Gave it a go. Here is how it went:
Start at 80% @ 12.14pm AEST.
80 % at 12:15pm
Doing some random text, deleting then starting again after deleting it, never thought I would write blah blah blah that much.
79% @ 12.17pm
78% @ 12.21 pm,
77% @ 12:25pm
76% @ 12.28pm
76% @ 12.30pm

Hand now tired.

i must say that is slightly quicker than in MS Notes or Nebo, although I confess I never really checked. While it could be better, not that bad IMHO Considering it is getting a fair bit of a workout with all that pen drawing, handwriting recognition and conversion to text.

i wonder what you could have done differently than me.
this bug has been there for a long time, and it spanned over multiple multiple releases, including major one (ios 16 --> ios 17 including many point relaeases in between). did you use the "lines & grid" to have lines (so you don't have fully white background but lines instead so you could write straight lines ? did your palm was resting on the ipad as you wrote ? maybe those could have had an influence ? i'm puzzled why your result differ than mine. despite my result have been verified by others. even on apple own forums Q&A, many users reported having to charge the ipad every 2hours (for its battery was drained by pencil & handwriting usage). i know my figures are correct and others reported similar use time. but i wonder what you might have done differently that allowed you to loose only 4% in 15minutes instead of 10% like myself any many others.

wait, did you say "handwriting recognition and conversion to text." ?
i never spoke of converting to text.
my use case is strictly about handwriting notes. long notes, 15minutes continuous writing. and keep it that way as it is, a long handwriten text but no conversion at all.

 

[mikegoldnj]

If Apple were to ever add Apple Pencil support to any iPhone then that iPhone would sell for no less than $2000.

Much easier to sell you two devices at about $1000 each.

In other words, Pencil on iPhone is never happening.

Remember when Steve Jobs told us we didn't need a stylus for our phones. Your finger is sufficient.

 

[mikegoldnj]

i wonder what you could have done differently than me.
this bug has been there for a long time, and it spanned over multiple multiple releases, including major one (ios 16 --> ios 17 including many point relaeases in between). did you use the "lines & grid" to have lines (so you don't have fully white background but lines instead so you could write straight lines ? did your palm was resting on the ipad as you wrote ? maybe those could have had an influence ? i'm puzzled why your result differ than mine. despite my result have been verified by others. even on apple own forums Q&A, many users reported having to charge the ipad every 2hours (for its battery was drained by pencil & handwriting usage). i know my figures are correct and others reported similar use time. but i wonder what you might have done differently that allowed you to loose only 4% in 15minutes instead of 10% like myself any many others.

wait, did you say "handwriting recognition and conversion to text." ?
i never spoke of converting to text.
my use case is strictly about handwriting notes. long notes, 15minutes continuous writing. and keep it that way as it is, a long handwriten text but no conversion at all.

Wouldn't handwriting recognition and converting to text eat up even more processor and battery power, which should make his numbers worse than yours?

 

[nsklaus]

Wouldn't handwriting recognition and converting to text eat up even more processor and battery power, which should make his numbers worse than yours?

the test is what it is.
i won't start to invent new conditions to it, just hoping his numbers would get closer to mine.
that would be dishonest.

it's like in math, you don't bend the elements of the equation to fit a result that is not what you expected.
you'd render the whole thing meaningless, worthless doing that way..
instead, you try to understand what happened, and re-verify your calculations.

 

[mikegoldnj]

the test is what it is.
i won't start to invent new conditions to it, just hoping his numbers would get closer to mine.
that would be dishonest.

it's like in math, you don't bend the elements of the equation to fit a result that is not what you expected.
you'd render the whole thing meaningless, worthless doing that way..
instead, you try to understand what happened, and re-verify your calculations.

The point is, he taxed the processor more than you did and still had better battery life.

 

[nsklaus]

The point is, he taxed the processor more than you did and still had better battery life.

you can't know that for sure. i mean, you're assuming that doing text conversion would be increasing resource usage more than just doing handwriting. but based on what ? you would need to either have the sources to see how it is implemented, or an application to monitor cpu and check when the resource usage do peak and when they are released, to be able to make such a statement.

it could well be that in doing so he was using less intensively the pencil and that the text conversion function is better optimized (doesn't suffer from the same flaw that manifest itself while writing), thus allowing his cpu to 'breathe' inbetween intensive resources usage sessions initiated by handwriting.

 

[mikegoldnj]

you can't know that for sure. i mean, you're assuming that doing text conversion would be increasing resource usage more than just doing handwriting. but based on what ? you would need to either have the sources to see how it is implemented, or an application to monitor cpu and check when the resource usage do peak and when they are released, to be able to make such a statement.

it could well be that in doing so he was using less intensively the pencil and that the text conversion function is better optimized (doesn't suffer from the same flaw that manifest itself while writing), thus allowing his cpu to 'breathe' inbetween intensive resources usage sessions initiated by handwriting.

OK, sure. Good luck

 

[nsklaus]

if you're developer, you must surely understand that resource usage depends on what the program is doing in a given function. what if the function for handling handwriting is using 100% cpu due to a bad loop, bad timing or bad optimization, while another function for handling text conversion doesn't suffer from the same flaw? you'd have two functions, one would be using 100% cpu while being triggered, the other would not. that sort of cases appear often while programming. it's not any stretch of the imagination or far fetched concept. it's a quite basic scenario. i often see it in my own projects.