Apple Pencil: Just Ipad Pro or all Ipads?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by alphaswift, Sep 10, 2015.

  1. alphaswift macrumors member

    Aug 26, 2014
    Hi all,

    I haven't been able to find an answer if the Pencil will work on all Ipads or just the Pro.

    BONUS POINTS: Will Apple Pencil work on a Surface Pro 3?

    Thanks in advance.
  2. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    I would guess that its just the pro, as I think the digitizer is different to account for the precision needed for the stylus.

    The Apple site also calls it the Pencil for the iPad Pro, so that also indicates its just for the Pro
  3. ditzy macrumors 68000


    Sep 28, 2007
    I can't be sure, but when reading about the pencil on the Apple website, it constantly points out that it is for the iPad pro. So am assuming that it does not work with anything else.
  4. webwbr macrumors member

    Dec 1, 2011
    I believe you are right... but I'm hard pressed to understand why Apple would make this ONLY work with the pro. Time will tell. :-/
  5. DeltaMac macrumors 604


    Jul 30, 2003
    As someone else pointed out, the aPencil is designed to work with the digitizer/screen in the iPadPro.
    So, if the same screen tech is used in another device, then the aPencil should work with that, too.
    Curious to see if it does anything on the iPhone 6S. (different tech, so probably not)
    Maybe you will see that Apple can do software or firmware changes for existing devices (or new devices, such as a more "touchy" MagicPad) to allow the aPencil to work.
    Right now, it's an accessory for the 'Pro, as the 'Pro is the only device with the tech that the aPencil can use.
  6. Rogifan macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2011
    Mashable says it only works with iPad pro as the tip is not capacitive.
  7. mashinhead macrumors 68020

    Oct 7, 2003
    Yup, it only works with the iPad Pro, the iPad Air 3, and the iPad mini 5
  8. pat500000 macrumors 604


    Jun 3, 2015
    if 3rd party stylus work on all/or most iPads...i'm sure apple pencil will work with iPads...
  9. melman101 macrumors 68030

    Sep 3, 2009
    You shouldn't be so sure. It won't work with other iPads. Apple is the master of hindering new tech to work with old tech for no reason other than cause they can.

    That being said, I do believe it is the screen tech in the iPad pro that makes it do what it needs to, so it won't work in other iPads anyhow.
  10. pat500000 macrumors 604


    Jun 3, 2015
    what sort of screen tech are we talking about here? If you could specify the tech they using to exclude 3rd party stylus...i would like to know.
  11. melman101 macrumors 68030

    Sep 3, 2009
    No one is saying they are excluding 3rd party styluses. What I am saying is the Apple Pencil won't work with other iPads. Only the iPad Pro.

    "iPad Pro knows whether you’re using your finger or Apple Pencil. When iPad Pro senses Apple Pencil, the subsystem scans its signal at an astounding 240 times per second, giving it twice the data points it normally collects with your finger. This data, combined with Apple‑designed software, means that there’s only milliseconds between the image you have in your mind and the one you see on the"

    "Introducing Apple Pencil for iPad Pro."
  12. DeltaMac macrumors 604


    Jul 30, 2003
    I wonder if the aPencil might work as a stylus to some degree on any other pad, but won't have the various stroke changes and pressure effects. That requires the higher speed scanning that the iPad Pro offers when the aPencil is being used. Without those features with high-speed response, it's just another stylus. If a third-party stylus appears that can access the sensors in the iPad Pro screen, then that should be a good thing - assuming similar performance to the aPencil/iPad Pro pairing.
  13. logicstudiouser macrumors 6502


    Feb 4, 2010
    The reason is $$$$.
  14. ZBoater macrumors G3


    Jul 2, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    I mean, the call it "for the iPad Pro" and we're still debating this?

    Wow. Just wow.

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