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Apple Phone in Early '07?

What are the odds of them using this new phone idea and turning it into a smartphone, maybe restarting the Newton project? As opposed of just having iTunes compatibale features only?
 
Sounds good. I want this phone!

To me its optics which are just as important as how many MP's. I have a 2MP Nokia 6280 which is OK but its let down by poor optics- For a camera I would rather a Nikon SLR any day
 
UberMac said:
A shame about scrapping the idea of a ground up design - I hope that doesn't lead to a lack of innovation. That's what really leads Apple along! Although if they just make a killer phone (I'm sure they will at some point...) it's bound to sell buckets loads!

Uber
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This doesn't mean they will just re-brand a phone...it might just mean they are buying transmitters/etc. from other sources rather than engineering their own. Depending on what they buying "off the shelf," this only makes sense...why re-create the wheel?

Of course they may end up just re-branding a phone, but that doesn't really seem like the Apple thing to do.
 
Clarification requested

dashiel said:
the ipod wasn't a ground up design either...

...now admittedly, it was apple, jobs and ives' that took a good idea and refined it to being the great product introduced in '03, but the ipod was an interesting break from apple's NIH syndrome. so much so that i question the TS report about apple going for a ground up design.
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Wasn't the iPod introduced in late 2001?

What is NIH syndrome?

Thanks
 
quigleybc said:
I think the iPhone is going to beat out G5 powerbooks for the most annoying front page rumor.
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HA! :p

No the iPhone posts/rumors, will have to go on for at least another six months before it reaches that status. This is still in the Apple tablet stratusphere. :D
 
iPod released in 2001...

dashiel said:
the ipod wasn't a ground up design either.

now admittedly, it was apple, jobs and ives' that took a good idea and refined it to being the great product introduced in '03, but the ipod was an interesting break from apple's NIH syndrome. so much so that i question the TS report about apple going for a ground up design.
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...I think you'll find.

Yes, check Wiki...
 
Original iPod released in '01

dashiel said:
the ipod wasn't a ground up design either.

portal player had the software, pixo designed the UI, toshiba had the new 1.8" hard drives and tony fadell who came up with the whole idea was an outside vendor who pitched the ipod to real networds first (who turned them down, genius).

now admittedly, it was apple, jobs and ives' that took a good idea and refined it to being the great product introduced in '03, but the ipod was an interesting break from apple's NIH syndrome. so much so that i question the TS report about apple going for a ground up design.
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I still have and use my original 5gb ipod. Came out before christmas, but after 9/11. I remember thinking how expensive it seemed & the state of the country at that point and wondered if anyone would buy it, I got mine in the spring of '02.
 
MegaSignal said:
Wasn't the iPod introduced in late 2001?

What is NIH syndrome?

Thanks
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you are correct, brain glitch on my part, i'm looking at by 1g ipod purchased the weekend they were in stores -- i really should know better.

NIH = not invented here. apple was notorious for this behavior in the 80s and 90s, much to their detriment, and success.
 
mmmcheese said:
This doesn't mean they will just re-brand a phone...it might just mean they are buying transmitters/etc. from other sources rather than engineering their own. Depending on what they buying "off the shelf," this only makes sense...why re-create the wheel?

Of course they may end up just re-branding a phone, but that doesn't really seem like the Apple thing to do.
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Apple will most likely buy a platform from a manufacturer like SonyEricsson. That doesnt mean it will look or feel like a SonyEricsson. LG has bought platforms from SE and they differ quite a lot from SE's phones.
 
MegaSignal said:
What is NIH syndrome?
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dashiel said:
NIH = not invented here. apple was notorious for this behavior in the 80s and 90s, much to their detriment, and success.
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Just to further clarify -- NIH syndrome is when a company chooses not to use technologies invented by other companies in its own products. They prefer to design and build the entire package themselves, in-house.


I'm not that interested in an iPhone. Apple would need to add some very unique features for me to consider buying one.
 
It's funny...and I say this not as a rumor...just coincidence.

There was a guy in a pizza place I went for lunch that was showing his friends his phone. And it was white. I thought that was a little odd because I don't think I've ever seen a white phone, and odd that someone was showing it off.
But it was a flip-phone and it was ugly, and it had lots of seams...
 
I'll be very tempted if it has;
3MP
All the display info in the latest iPods
BT
4-8 GB
Full iLife intergration (iSync, iTunes, iPhoto, iCal, Address book (with pictures), Mail)
Earphones (Pref BT and acts as hands free)

Desire
3G?
iChat with BT for Audio?
Widgets?
WiFi
IR remote feature
Light / Flash
 
Macrumors said:
The phones are said to include high-end features such as a 3-megapixel camera
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Who the hell needs a 3MP camera on a phone? The optics are horrendous (never mind the sensor element), so there is really no good use for that kind of resolution. I'd rather they put the money elsewhere...
 
aswitcher said:
I'll be very tempted if it has;
3MP
All the display info in the latest iPods
BT
4-8 GB
Full iLife intergration (iSync, iTunes, iPhoto, iCal, Address book (with pictures), Mail)
Earphones (Pref BT and acts as hands free)

Desire
3G?
iChat with BT for Audio?
Widgets?
WiFi
IR remote feature
Light / Flash
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Wow...that would be ideal! Mucho $$ too.
 
BornAgainMac said:
I thought 10 Mega Pixels were possible with some tech that is suppose to arrive at the end of this year for phones.
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The weak link is the lens. Basic physics says that the resolving power of a lens is proportional to it's diameter divided by the wavelenght of light. Light is not going to change any time soon so if you want to get a clear sharp image you need a certain physical diametr lens. If for some reason you can't have a big lens then what's the point of using a 10MP sensor? Actually if the device is size constrained using fewer pixels on the same size sensor (larger pixels) will improve low light performance. Bottom line: There is an optimum number of pixels, more is not better.

On the other hand if you are selling to un-educated buyers "we got more MPs" is good for marketing purposes even if it is counter productive on technical grounds
 
szark said:
Just to further clarify -- NIH syndrome is when a company chooses not to use technologies invented by other companies in its own products. They prefer to design and build the entire package themselves, in-house.

I'm not that interested in an iPhone. Apple would need to add some very unique features for me to consider buying one.
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What if it supported NuBus cards?

OK, that was a (bad) joke, since I think NuBus was one of those Apple-only inventions from the past.

But why would you NOT want Apple's phone, szark? Is is that you don't want a camera phone or music phone in the first place, or that you expect it to be priced too high? Without knowing more about it, how do we know it's not going to be at least as good as the phones we have now? Plus an Apple logo.
 
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