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100 replies and no one mentions Idagio? It's a big $10/month. If Apple Classical is wrapped into Apple One then maybe I'll get rid of Idagio (that will hurt, actually, it feels good to support smaller companies). If it's extra cost I will just keep Idagio, which satisfies all the needs of people who listen to classical music.
 
There is no deadline or promise anywhere than in silly article headlines like this one.

If I say I am planning to work on my roof this year, that is not a promise nor is there any deadline of Dec 31st. It is a statement of intent. Nothing more.

Personally I find a statement of “we are planning to do this within the next year” more useful than “we may or may not do anything with this, you will just have to wait and see”. Which seems to be how Apple usually plays things.
"The Mac transition to Apple Silicon is the planned two-year process of introducing ARM64-based Apple silicon to, and deprecating Intel's x86-64 from, Apple's Macintosh line of computers. CEO Tim Cook announced the plan in his WWDC keynote address on June 22, 2020"

SOURCE: https://encyclopedia.pub/entry/32377
 
Time is running out for the Apple Silicon transition too. They don't care. And that's fine, but why make deadlines if you are not going to do anything in time? Just say "whenever we feel like it" and call it a day.
Was it really a deadline... or an estimate?

In the real complex world, no strategy or plan has ever survived contact with reality without some alterations.
 
Was it really a deadline... or an estimate?

In the real complex world, no strategy or plan has ever survived contact with reality without some alterations.
"The Mac transition to Apple Silicon is the planned two-year process of introducing ARM64-based Apple silicon to, and deprecating Intel's x86-64 from, Apple's Macintosh line of computers. CEO Tim Cook announced the plan in his WWDC keynote address on June 22, 2020"

SOURCE: https://encyclopedia.pub/entry/32377
 
Exactly - a plan, not a promise or guarantee 👍
So I guess if you don't have a legally binding document then your word doesn't mean anything even when you announce it in an Apple keynote in front of millions of people, many of whom are reporters reporting news and many of whom are investors who make fiduciary decisions based on that information that the CEO himself said. You are right, silly me.
 
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So I guess if you don't have a legally binding document then your word doesn't mean anything even when you announce it in an Apple keynote in front of millions of people, many of whom are reporters reporting news and many of whom are investors who make fiduciary decisions based on that information that the CEO himself said. You are right, silly me.

Hi Phil, the transition to Apple silicon was and is an epically complex undertaking requiring thousands of workers and teams to work through millions of dependencies in a very challenging environment (covid).

There are an infinite number of things that can go wrong with such a plan. Apple executives are excellent, but even they're not miracle workers.

I wish the transition would have been completed already, too, but I was also not surprised something this complex might get delayed by a few months.

Two years ago, they gave us a timeline they thought was realistic based on what they knew at the time.

Sometimes life intervenes and makes us look stupid :)
 
Maybe they are planning on releasing it with some new audio hardware like an updated HomePod? They're waiting for 16.2 to be ready to go and they announce them all at the same time. 🤞
 
Apple Music metadata is a mess for classical. There is no concept of splitting up composers or artists if multiple are used for a single song. Half the time the composer is set to the artist tag. Music discovery would be completely broken without some major work.

Well, any mess is primarily due to whomever is filling in the info. The fields are there, it's just a matter of populating them intelligently.

There are enough fields here to sort and search a classical selection efficiently and correctly. In the case of this randomly selected track, I would have filled these differently, but I have no problem searching / filtering even as it is. But the metadata fields at least are sufficient to contain the necessary data; I don't think it is necessary to have a separate app for classical music. The genre field is enough of a qualifier.

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EDIT: I only buy music in physical formats and add them to my digital library. I can't comment on specific issues via streaming / online services. If that's the discussion here, kindly disregard. 😶
 

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100 replies and no one mentions Idagio? It's a big $10/month. If Apple Classical is wrapped into Apple One then maybe I'll get rid of Idagio (that will hurt, actually, it feels good to support smaller companies). If it's extra cost I will just keep Idagio, which satisfies all the needs of people who listen to classical music.
Finally, a mention of iDagio. I usually listen to WRR 101.1 in Dallas (they're 101 years old this year, the oldest radio station in Texas), but I wanted something more. I found iDagio by doing a Web search for classical music apps, where I found this article:

Idagio—The Spotify For Classical Music—Has Changed My Life | Vogue

The problem with services like Spotify and Apple Music is the lack of proper metadata for classical music. iDagio is focused on classical, and higher subscription levels offer lossless streaming and downloads (FLAC), and access to concerts. It's a great app.
 
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Well, any mess is primarily due to whomever is filling in the info. The fields are there, it's just a matter of populating them intelligently.
I agree. Except Apple hasn’t populated them intelligently, and — what’s worse — when you log in, the Music app privileges *their* bogosity-infused metadata over yours, stomping your efforts to bring sanity.

So we’re in the same boat — I buy and rip CDs, and then keep to a coherent system in the metadata. If you put in that effort, Music works well (modulo some ugly bugs that crop up).
 
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Love classical music .

The Current Music app is awful as was itunes in its last years.
Why the need for a separate app?
Make the current app good
 
It got pushed back so they could waste engineering talent and user time to "finish" Stage Manager.

Apple has now learned that Stage Manager was a waste of time and talent, and has moved everyone back to Apple Classical Music.

Unfortunately, they had to borrow people from the nonexistent car they claim to be working on for 10 years now.
 
"The Mac transition to Apple Silicon is the planned two-year process of introducing ARM64-based Apple silicon to, and deprecating Intel's x86-64 from, Apple's Macintosh line of computers. CEO Tim Cook announced the plan in his WWDC keynote address on June 22, 2020"

SOURCE: https://encyclopedia.pub/entry/32377

We agree. Apple announced a PLANNED two-year transition.

What my post said, and what you seem to have completely ignored, is that a PLAN is an announcement of intent. It is NOT A PROMISE. If you are still confused, please consult an English language dictionary.
 
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Whoever designed Apple Music must have worked for SirusXM. It's like they treat Classical as one station and its stuck amongst many pop/country/blues/jazz stations. They need to be split up in some manner, as most pop/country/blues/jazz are usually shorter duration content, and classical is longer duration content. From a royalty perspective it's hard to compare the two because one can be based on short tracks played, and the other by some length of minutes.
SiriusXM used to do it that way, but over recent years lumped everything into one channel, and it's terrible. You can be more granular on the music app but it misses the point of vehicle use.
 
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Ah.. I was not aware that Apple purchased Primephonic, a streaming service for classical music! Otherwise, it seemed out of the blue that Apple was all the sudden interested in focusing on classical music.
Time is running out for the Apple Silicon transition too. They don't care. And that's fine, but why make deadlines if you are not going to do anything in time? Just say "whenever we feel like it" and call it a day.
I don't get the deadline either. AFAIK, the only thing would've been to release it in time for the holidays, but unlike video games and new hardware (e.g. iPads, iPhones, accessories), gifting streaming music services doesn't really seem to be a thing.
 
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