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The farm would be either located in Catawba or Cleveland county. Cleveland county is about 45 minutes west of Charlotte and Catawba county is about 45 minutes NW of Charlotte.

Both sites are in eye shot of the recently built Google data center. On top of the tax breaks, electricity is extra cheap in these parts.
 
Weather isnt a big factor when choosing a location of a date center, which is what I assume they mean by 'server farm.' I'm currently helping coordinate a data center in OK that is designed to withstand 300mph winds. I also modeled and coordinated one for AT&T that does text messaging and iphone data usage.
 
Looks like apple could one day be a giant, like google.

They have been for a few years now.

You just wouldn't know it by their examplary customer service and their high product satisfaction rates. Apple seems smaller, leaner, and more tightly run.

They currently have more spare cash on hand than MS - well at least they did 7 months ago or so.
 
Majority of the money would be covering the cost of actually running the data center. They inhale electricity.
 
What type of apple certification should I acquire to look
more appealing to any job offers that may come open.

Any ideas?
 
Now, they need to power it using only solar and wind energy. The world doesn't need yet another polluting coal-power-dependant server farm.

Apple needs to show that it is in truth a green company. The construction of a new server-farm is a great opportunity to do just that.
 
Now, they need to power it using only solar and wind energy. The world doesn't need yet another polluting coal-power-dependant server farm.

Apple needs to show that it is in truth a green company. The construction of a new server-farm is a great opportunity to do just that.

That's something else I had forgotten, now that you mention it. IF they put it in Cleveland county, then the local energy company could just run an extension cord to the shiny new coal fired power plant that is being brought up about 15 miles away to replace a much older, dirtier plant that has been around for a long time.
 
Certainly an interesting prospect. It's interesting that they chose North Carolina in particular, although that likely has to do with the massive tax breaks. I wonder if the building of this server farm is simply to keep up with regular demand or if Apple has a special project up their sleeves in the near future that would require a lot of server space.

Haven't you heard? California is going bankrupt. Their "girlie-man" governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, had no back-bone to veto the democratic controlled legislature that passed bill after bill that placed uncontrolled spending on priorities like expensive health care for non-usa citizens, etc. The rich, which is where the government got it revenues, are pouring out of that state because of the taxation. The government proposed taxing the average joe and 5 of the 6 propositions just voted on, failed. The government spent and spent and now has to cut services to try and fix it's budget shortfall.

Apple does have a "special project up their sleeves", by preparing to move it's operations elsewhere so all those who get upset at AI for always writing in their articles and describe Apple, the company, as the Cupertino-based company, will see a change of pace. ;)

Who knows, maybe AI's description of Apple will become, the Research Triangle Park company... :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triangle_(North_Carolina)
 
Now, they need to power it using only solar and wind energy. The world doesn't need yet another polluting coal-power-dependant server farm.

Apple needs to show that it is in truth a green company. The construction of a new server-farm is a great opportunity to do just that.

Actually - Duke Power operates a number - 4 in the Charlotte / Rock Hill area - of nuclear power plants. So the electricity is most likely fission based.

There are 11 electricity generating nuclear reactors in the NC and SC state boundaries.
 
This is what's wrong with our government.

Subsidization distorts natural market forces and creates monopolies, the same monopolies people then cry for regulation of.
 
Hey Rot'nApple - calling Arnold a "girlie-man" does a disservice to girlie-men everywhere ;)

This guy has been a disaster - a failed leader for sure. Of course, there is a big debate if the mob in Sacramento can ever be led.
 
Apple does have a "special project up their sleeves", by preparing to move it's operations elsewhere so all those who get upset at AI for always writing in their articles and describe Apple, the company, as the Cupertino-based company, will see a change of pace. ;)

Who knows, maybe AI's description of Apple will become, the Research Triangle Park company... :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triangle_(North_Carolina)

The tax law changes require that the operations be based in areas within the state with the highest unemployment. It's all spelled out in the Charlotte Observer article - Link in the OP. Therefore, Research Triangle Park does not qualify. The total cost of doing business is cheaper in Charlotte than Research Triangle Park too. And they are both WAY cheaper than in Cupertino.
 
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I'll buy if it's organic!
 
Why do people consider Google a giant relative to Apple? It's a rhetorical question, I know why, it's because people haven't adjusted to the fact Apple is no longer struggling and is extremely successful...

Just to prove the point, relative Market Caps:
Apple = $109Bn
Google = $124Bn
Microsoft = $175Bn

And about the same revenue, and larger asset base.
 
Actually - Duke Power operates a number - 4 in the Charlotte / Rock Hill area - of nuclear power plants. So the electricity is most likely fission based.

There are 11 electricity generating nuclear reactors in the NC and SC state boundaries.

And two of them are in Catawba county which is one of the two sites being considered. It's a short hall from the reactors to anywhere in the county.
 
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Rot'nApple said:
Certainly an interesting prospect. It's interesting that they chose North Carolina in particular, although that likely has to do with the massive tax breaks. I wonder if the building of this server farm is simply to keep up with regular demand or if Apple has a special project up their sleeves in the near future that would require a lot of server space.

Haven't you heard? California is going bankrupt. Their "girlie-man" governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, had no back-bone to veto the democratic controlled legislature that passed bill after bill that placed uncontrolled spending on priorities like expensive health care for non-usa citizens, etc. The rich, which is where the government got it revenues, are pouring out of that state because of the taxation. The government proposed taxing the average joe and 5 of the 6 propositions just voted on, failed. The government spent and spent and now has to cut services to try and fix it's budget shortfall.

Apple does have a "special project up their sleeves", by preparing to move it's operations elsewhere so all those who get upset at AI for always writing in their articles and describe Apple, the company, as the Cupertino-based company, will see a change of pace. ;)

Who knows, maybe AI's description of Apple will become, the Research Triangle Park company... :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triangle_(North_Carolina)

Go back under the bridge you grumpy ol' troll.
 
The first thought to came to my mind in reading this thread title was "What kind of fertilizer do you use on a server farm?"

Actually, in all seriousness, I'm wondering if Apple is starting to see the wisdom in diversifying the geographical locations of its servers. What with that little earthquake that Southern Colli-for-nee-ah got the other day, it puts one in mind of the degree of potential physical jeopardy that Silicon Valley is in.

A lot, unless you buy the servers from Apple... ;)
I wonder if Apple uses Apple servers... :eek:
 
Not long ago, North Carolina gave a similar tax break package to Dell to locate a plant in the state, but last month Dell eliminated quite a few of those prized jobs. The price/job ratio always seems out of whack with these tax break, but the local politicians are always looking for ways to say they brought jobs to the area.

Instead of giving big tax breaks to big companies for a few jobs, why not invest funds in something like internet infrastructure? Most of NC still limps along with DOCSIS 1.1 cable internet (I'm lucky if I can get 7 Mbps for $40/month, a friend in Korea gets over 55 Mbps for the same price!). Imagine how many jobs and small businesses a modern IT infrastructure would attract to the state!

Back on topic, I find it interesting how Apple intends to build out their own server resources. I seem to recall they outsource a lot of stuff to third parties such as Akamai.
 
Actually, in all seriousness, I'm wondering if Apple is starting to see the wisdom in diversifying the geographical locations of its servers. What with that little earthquake that Southern Colli-for-nee-ah got the other day, it puts one in mind of the degree of potential physical jeopardy that Silicon Valley is in.

Apple has other server farms and a comprehensive business continuity plan (disaster recovery). If they loose a data center, they can pick up the slack in other centers until they can get it sorted out. Users might experience some slowness, but should not loose service. Your right that Silicon Valley is a time-bomb. I've worked in the valley for 20 years, and can tell you that any major / respectable company that has data centers there has a backup plan in place to shift processing to centers outside the state. It is however very expensive to have the infrastructure in place to achieve this. You need plans in place for all centers though because they can all be interrupted by things like fire, flooding, extended power outages, etc.
 
Why North Carolina? Here's why:
 

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