Apple Planning to Fight Proposed 'Right to Repair' Legislation

[Archeus]

There is no right to repair. The strikes me is some childish manifesto rhetoric like iFixit. Which in and of itself is an insult to people who have lived under oppressive regimes with real manifestos .

You can choose to buy Apple's products or not and they have no obligation to disclose anything about how they manufacture the products, make them easy to repair, or any other right to repair program.

Right to repair is like every other "right" these days. A childish nanny state knee jerk to use the force of government to take Apple's hard work and engineering brilliance and turn it over to Joe Shmoe because some some rich state congress has nothing better to do and is afraid to look at the real problems like rampant homelessness and traffic gridlock.

The problem with your post is that most often, people who complain about the "nanny state" are all too keen to have that same state dictate what women can do with their bodies, or to offer tax breaks to mega-corporations. Also, I'm not sure that Nebraska would qualify as a "rich state."

Otherwise, I agree. We choose to purchase the products that we do. Remember though that the line between luxury and necessity, where technology is concerned, has become almost imperceptibly thin.

 

[charlituna]

I hope they lose. I hope they lose HARD. We all should be able to repair our own stuff.

I agree with Apple on a lot of things but their stance on end-users repairing their own property has always been something I have a problem with.

well have fun with replacing your own iPhone 7 screen and not having your home button work cause you can't afford the $20k Apple will charge for you to have the machine required to properly repair the screen. well if you are lucky it will be that cheap. knowing them they will charge more like $100k. most small businesses will barely be able to afford that.

My BF says he gets at least 2 not working iPhone 7/7+ with this issue and a 3rd party screen a week. and they didn't save any money doing it. in fact one customer paid $30 more than she would have at an actual Apple store
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The fact that Apple is about to fight this says it all. Disgraceful closed management attempting to curtail customer rights, get rid of the management.

well that's the catch isn't it. Apple is arguing that there is no customer right. which is why they are fighting it. we shall see how it plays out.

 

[0007776]

This sounds like a good requirement, but how long would they have to make the parts available for? I can see them not wanting to have to continue manufacturing parts for old phones. Other than that potential issue it sounds like a good idea.

 

[iMarc845]

well have fun with replacing your own iPhone 7 screen and not having your home button work cause you can't afford the $20k Apple will charge for you to have the machine required to properly repair the screen. well if you are lucky it will be that cheap. knowing them they will charge more like $100k. most small businesses will barely be able to afford that.

My BF says he gets at least 2 not working iPhone 7/7+ with this issue and a 3rd party screen a week. and they didn't save any money doing it. in fact one customer paid $30 more than she would have at an actual Apple store
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well that's the catch isn't it. Apple is arguing that there is no customer right. which is why they are fighting it. we shall see how it plays out.

I presume your BF works at an Apple Sore or AASC. And I understand that some folks get suckered into a repair that voids the warranty. I'm talking about a device that Apple barely even recognizes exists, much less will provide service for. The AppleCare for both my Mac Pros expired long ago. If I dragged my 3,1 machine into my local Apple Store, the staff there wouldn't even touch it. All I want is to have the manuals and potentially OEM parts available to me and/or the service provider of my choice. Apple loses nothing and gains customer's goodwill.

Your second point sums it up all too well: Apple's argument is that customers have no rights. Many of us used to living in a Democracy expect some form of consumer protections that prevent the kind of monopoly that Apple and others fighting these laws are asserting.

 

[Guy Clark]

There is no right to repair. The strikes me is some childish manifesto rhetoric like iFixit. Which in and of itself is an insult to people who have lived under oppressive regimes with real manifestos .

You can choose to buy Apple's products or not and they have no obligation to disclose anything about how they manufacture the products, make them easy to repair, or any other right to repair program.

Right to repair is like every other "right" these days. A childish nanny state knee jerk to use the force of government to take Apple's hard work and engineering brilliance and turn it over to Joe Shmoe because some some rich state congress has nothing better to do and is afraid to look at the real problems like rampant homelessness and traffic gridlock.

iFixit supply a highly professional service. Repair Guides are second to none. Along with that they have a extensive catalogue of tools and materials for getting the job done. Hell I can change a Hard Drive over in a 27" Slimline iMac in 3 hours courtesy of iFixit. They are a highly professional organisation who refuse to bow down to the dictatorship of the Apple Corporation.
https://eustore.ifixit.com/en/home/

 

[Nermal]

This sounds like a good requirement, but how long would they have to make the parts available for? I can see them not wanting to have to continue manufacturing parts for old phones. Other than that potential issue it sounds like a good idea.

If my understanding is correct then it doesn't change/prescribe the length of time that parts are available, just that they are available directly to consumers in addition to licensed repairers.

 

[0007776]

If my understanding is correct then it doesn't change/prescribe the length of time that parts are available, just that they are available directly to consumers in addition to licensed repairers.

Then that's a good thing to have in place.

 

[iMarc845]

iFixit supply a highly professional service. Repair Guides are second to none. Along with that they have a extensive catalogue of tools and materials for getting the job done. Hell I can change a Hard Drive over in a 27" Slimline iMac in 3 hours courtesy of iFixit. They are a highly professional organisation who refuse to bow down to the dictatorship of the Apple Corporation.
https://eustore.ifixit.com/en/home/

I agree completely. Another good source (especially for US customers) is Other World Computing or OWC ( http://www.macsales.com ). They also have How-to videos available via the "Customer Support" link at the top of their website.

BTW: the US link for iFixIt is: http://www.ifixit.com

Disclaimer: I am not benefitting in any way from these recommendations. I am simply a satisfied customer. And opposed to being bullied by Apple and other companies who want me to buy new products instead of upgrading or repairing perfectly good older ones.

 

[belvdr]

Nebraska. Whadya know?
Apple wants to be like John Deere:
Illegal to repair -their- product.

http://modernfarmer.com/2016/07/right-to-repair/

In fact, the craziness of this goes even further: In a 2015 letter to the United States Copyright Office, John Deere, the world’s largest tractor maker, said that the folks who buy tractors don’t own them, not in the way the general public believes “ownership” works. Instead, John Deere said that those who buy tractors are actually purchasing an “implied license for the life of the vehicle to operate the vehicle.”

I remember that. I'm not sure what came of it, but I can repair my Deere myself and from parts from the dealer, if I so choose.