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Apples focus has been and always will be mobile. The thing is I think there is a major internal private knife fight about to go all in and make ARM based Macs or to fallow along with intel. This strife has killed a lot of innovation.
 
How much will the new iMac be? $4000 with 256gb SSD and a free dongle?

"free dongle"? LOL We're talking about Apple here :)

It is truly a shame to see the Mac and MacOS languishing to the point of irrelevance due to Cook's management. There's still "something" special there (in macOS) which makes it better than the rest, and its disappointing that no one at Apple seems to care enough about it.

PS>> I'm sick of hearing Cook talk about what's in the pipeline. Hes been doing it for 2 years now. I've even given up on watching those keynotes, because almost everything leaks months before anyway.
 
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It may not qualify as a "radical redesign", but I find it hard to believe they'll add USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 to the iMac without changing the case design a bit. Perhaps it's just a slight reduction of the bezels and chin (which I'd be happy with) and the changes aren't noticeable enough to be considered a major redesign in the supply chain.

Regardless. As soon as there is a USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 5K iMac, take my $2 grand.

[Side note: It is a major problem for a company if there are consistently people willing to fork over >$1,000 to you at any given time and you can't come out with a product to capture that revenue.]
 
Timmy better deliver on his promise! Hopefully his vision of a great desktop is more than an emoji bar on the iMac keyboard.

Bryan - I understand your sentiment but not sure I see any organizational catalyst for Cook to change. The Board of Directors appears uninvolved in any meaningful way and Timmy keeps blabbering on about great things in that totally constipated pipeline - nothing changes. Cook has created the Apple Black Hole - huge resources go in and very little comes out.
 
Apples focus has been and always will be mobile. The thing is I think there is a major internal private knife fight about to go all in and make ARM based Macs or to fallow along with intel. This strife has killed a lot of innovation.

Microsoft is constraint by the same processors.

That didn't stop it from release innovative products in its Surface line.
 
I know a lot of folks on here have been saying the same, but it's hard to look at it any other way. It just seems they're being purely business focussed - the iPhone / iPad has better margins and ships in higher volumes, so why waste time on the Mac? It sucks for those who have invested into the Mac desktop ecosystem and are now being left hanging :(

Really hope they release some killer new desktops in 2017.

In the long run, diversification works best (i.e. they should be spending more effort on their other products). Like most companies, Apple is looking to maximize profits now at the expense of later.
 
Next iMac will have a revolutionary power switch located in the power cord next to the socket. To turn on your new iMac, you'll need Apple Watch (sold separately) - or you can crawl under the table, which is free.

I have a bad feeling about iMac going to be the only desktop from Apple in 2018.

I find it funny that you mention this as it's what finally broke the camels back for me with windows 10. my gaming tower would randomly turn itself back on.
 
It's kind of pathetic that Apple does not understand the consumers and prosumers see that they have dramatically reduced the amount of people who work on and develop mac hardware.

It's as if they only have one team, and they are only concerned with reduction of size and don't care about power and allowing owners to add ram and otherwise do basic upgrades which is normal to virtually any other computer line.

We want yearly updates to each line and not have Apple pretend like they are selling current technology. They are not.
 
Mac Pro and China where there are skills for ambitious products. Are Americans not capable of that?

I could not care less if the Mac Pro is made in the US.

Apple ceased being an American company years ago. It's a multinational. Multinationals only have allegiance to the bottom line.

Wherever the Mac Pro can be produces with the best quality at the cheapest price is where I want to buy it form.
 
While my notebooks have been Macs for well over a decade now, I can't bring myself to buy an iMac - the displays are gorgeous, but it's weird to pay such a premium for last year's hardware, with a mobile video card, no upgradability whatsoever (unless you buy the top of the line model, and that only gets you accessible RAM slots), etc.

I guess I keep hoping for the impossible: to build my own and be able to install OSX on it legally and without fuss, like we have to do it with hackintosh builds.
 
To answer the question.

This is the lineup going forward. This is what they refer to as the mac line up from the apple site. Mac mini gone, Mac Pro gone.

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Americans want to do factory work. Just not for a wage that would support affordable tech gear AND guarantee current quality, at minimum.

People don't even want to man a cash register for less than 15 dollars an hour. Who is going to cover up head to toe in protective gear and assemble computing equipment for pennies per hour like the Chinese?

Those two jobs are not even closely related and a clean room suit is not necessary for the position you are thinking of.

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/production/assemblers-and-fabricators.htm

For one, given the choice more people would probably choose an assembly/fab job than a retail job almost all of the time. Second the American workforce (as evidenced by this election cycle) is too focused on backwards employment in industries that are low-tech which is partly because of the low math and science education levels of the average American workforce. Third, because the Asia/Pacific region has been investing in both infrastructure and manpower for decades to support technology jobs they have far more people not only familiar with the work but have the opportunity to jump straight into it directly after graduating high school.
 
Overall, the article suggests the Mac is "getting far less attention than it once did," partly due to "a lack of clear direction from senior management, departures of key people working on Mac hardware, and technical challenges."
I really don't get what's the problem with releasing a tower-based Mac Pro, like in the old days. Investment would be almost zero compared to any other Mac model, because you'd use a lot of COTS parts and would need very little custom design investment. You wouldn't harm iMac nor MacBook sales. Nearly zero investment for keeping the pros onboard, and they won't do it. Nonsense.
 
No.

TouchBar on external keyboard has all sorts of problems.

-It is not juxtaposition to the display the way it is on a MacBook, which calls into question the practicality of looking down at it.
-It can't include Touch ID because Apple is not packing a Secure Element into a frigging keyboard accessory.
-It would have a serious demand on the keyboard's battery, probably rendering it less wireless than wired.

And your idea of trackpad that turns into a display is ridiculous and wouldn't even get off the ground in a design meeting. The idea of using it as a numberpad is compeltely absurd. The only reason the numberpad was helpful as part of the keyboard was because it was a physical set of keys, that could be punched easily by one who had developed the muscle memory. Turning into a faux numberpad for the user to hunt and peck at is a gimmick the likes of which Samsung would be proud.
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Awwww man you're so clever. I wish I wish this clever.
Apple designed S1 to be cheap. It's a simple ARM processor that can cost under 10 USD to make. It will run it's own OS. And putting touchID to the Ultra Magic Touch Keyboard it is not a challenge at all.

Apple will sell it for 199 USD.
 
It is a total shame that Apple can take a great product line and kill it off by simply ignoring it. My next laptop will not be a Mac, and once I switch to Ubuntu or Windows, I won't care as much about an iPhone or iPad. Seems like a bad marketing move to me, but hey...they make so much money on phones they clearly don't care. Right now, any way.

Tim Cook = the modern John Scully.

Id say Steve Ballmer, cause profits keep going up.
 
Microsoft is constraint by the same processors.

That didn't stop it from release innovative products in its Surface line.

I do not know what more innovation people want minus a touch screen laptop. In the iMac space your right MSFT was highly innovative.

So I think this also goes to the schools of thought MSFT is all about slobbering over the screen even when the UI does not really support it. Apple is about classic interfacing at the cost of creative solutions like the surface studio.

I think neither is right 100%. I think the surface studio is amazing and if apple had made it I do not think it would wobble so badly. I also think they need to allow apps to have touch screen access to the iMac. We can bicker on if you think the laptop should or should not have a touch screen. I think we can all agree the surface studio is amazing. I think the new iMac needs to leap frog it with a better hinge and beefer internals and let me use the Apple Pencil 2.0 to interface with the screen and just kill the Wacom guys right off.
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Id say Steve Ballmer, cause profits keep going up.

I would say none of the above. Ballmer mucked about screwing up product lines for zero reason. Tim is just not updating as fast not actively running things. Scully helmed a sinking ship.

I would equate this to more like a car company like Nissan. They were hot to trot in the early 2000's then by failing to keep pace with design they have fallen out of favor but still make loads of cash.
 
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