Did they not just do that?Would be great if this functionality is expanded to other app types, like music (e.g. Spotify).
Spotify Siri Support
Did they not just do that?Would be great if this functionality is expanded to other app types, like music (e.g. Spotify).
Agree. This is what happens when you arm sensitive (pre-)millennials with legal terminology. Same broad idea as “it hurts my feelings therefore it must be wrong,” i.e. reaction defines reality. They both need a healthy dose of suck-it-up-buttercup.
Spotify's latest TestFlight beta already adds Siri support!!
Sort of, but this still requires you to say “on Spotify” after your Siri request, which is different from what I was requesting.Did they not just do that?
Spotify Siri Support
Ah. Not that much harder to say "On Spotify" though. At least we're getting Siri support.Sort of, but this still requires you to say “on Spotify” after your Siri request, which is different from what I was requesting.
Right? The green bubble thing is absolutely the most absurd thing I've ever heard. I've seen other people write about it too. Any person that is shallow enough to judge me or anyone else based on their cellular device is not someone I'd want to befriend anyway. Shall we start judging each other on our cars of choice, too?On a recent Vergecast podcast with John Gruber Nilay Patel was arguing that iMessage was anti-competitive because it isn’t on all platforms. But the only argument he made was when he’s on a group text and someone comes through as a green bubble it causes anxiety. WTF? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. But The Verge has been pushing this for a while now, writing stories about how green bubble friends feel inferior and other nonsense.
iMessage not being on Android isn’t anti-competitive. What would be anti-competitive is not allowing competing messaging platforms on iOS, and that’s not the case. And with this Siri change it will be even harder to claim anti-competitive. My guess is allowing iOS users to choose default apps will be coming soon as well.
Kids are welcome on my lawn, as long as their hurt widdle feelies over an offensive color green don’t make them try to force me to plant different grass.In addition to that social stigma, Apple makes it difficult to actually switch away from iMessage. You should stop yelling at the kids to get off your lawn and take a moment to consider the situation objectively. The Supreme Court, which isn't full of millennials, ruled that Apple can be sued for monopolistic behavior with regard to the App Store. The unregulated behavior of the tech industry has become a genuine concern to society.
You still listen to Nilay? I’m surprised that people still take him seriously.On a recent Vergecast podcast with John Gruber Nilay Patel was arguing that iMessage was anti-competitive because it isn’t on all platforms. But the only argument he made was when he’s on a group text and someone comes through as a green bubble it causes anxiety. WTF? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. But The Verge has been pushing this for a while now, writing stories about how green bubble friends feel inferior and other nonsense.
iMessage not being on Android isn’t anti-competitive. What would be anti-competitive is not allowing competing messaging platforms on iOS, and that’s not the case. And with this Siri change it will be even harder to claim anti-competitive. My guess is allowing iOS users to choose default apps will be coming soon as well.
As long as you can continue to dictate which app with the "using" phrase Siri works for me.
I think Nilay is wrong if he calls Messages anti-competitive, but he’s absolutely right that green bubbles are lower status amongst power-Messages users, and ruin the party when one person in a group text isn’t using iOS, rendering the whole conversation in green bubbles and affording limited functionality. It’s no doubt a first world problem, but green bubbles are definitely are a bummer.On a recent Vergecast podcast with John Gruber Nilay Patel was arguing that iMessage was anti-competitive because it isn’t on all platforms. But the only argument he made was when he’s on a group text and someone comes through as a green bubble it causes anxiety. WTF? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. But The Verge has been pushing this for a while now, writing stories about how green bubble friends feel inferior and other nonsense.
iMessage not being on Android isn’t anti-competitive. What would be anti-competitive is not allowing competing messaging platforms on iOS, and that’s not the case. And with this Siri change it will be even harder to claim anti-competitive. My guess is allowing iOS users to choose default apps will be coming soon as well.
That isn't always the proper decision. Say you use your phone for business and home and therefore use Messages for work because of the security but Messenger for your family. After a weekend or a family vacation you don't want Siri changing your business communications to Messenger because you use that a lot on your time off. No algorithm for selecting which app to use will be perfect and, using voice direction between Messages and Messenger isn't likely to be perfect given how similar they sound. Even if Apple nails the selection 99% of the time there will be a flood of stories on how Apple failed at the job.Good news, if Siri is supposed to be "smart" it should default to the app you use the most. Should work for messages, podcast, music and workouts.
That isn't always the proper decision. Say you use your phone for business and home and therefore use Messages for work because of the security but Messenger for your family. After a weekend or a family vacation you don't want Siri changing your business communications to Messenger because you use that a lot on your time off. No algorithm for selecting which app to use will be perfect and, using voice direction between Messages and Messenger isn't likely to be perfect given how similar they sound. Even if Apple nails the selection 99% of the time there will be a flood of stories on how Apple failed at the job.