Apple Posts 27" Retina iMac-Sized OS X Mavericks Background

[MikhailT]

Why do you doubt it? You can already run two 2560x1600 displays as well as the internal display at an effective 3840x2400, which is a shedload more pixels than this...

Because of the following:

1) The current TB/DP supports 10Gbps, which 2560x1600 displays does not saturate via each TB/DP port.
2) Internal Display is internally connected to the GPU, so the external protocol doesn't matter
3) The 5120x2880 requires ~15Gbps of data throughput, something current TB cannot do. Thus, TB2 is required with its 20Gbps channels.

This does not mean a new Retina display is coming... There are plenty of screens that already have a 5120 x 2880 resolution already.

Such as?

 

[itsaustinh]

imagine how brilliant a 27" retina display is gonna look...

 

[coolspot18]

Do you really need a retina display for a desktop monitor? Aren't most users like 2 - 3 feet away from the monitor ... at which point can the human eye even see the pixels?

 

[BeauPaul]

What the heck happened to Bob Cat or Cougar?

The Mountain Lion is a Cougar!

 

[auero]

Do you really need a retina display for a desktop monitor? Aren't most users like 2 - 3 feet away from the monitor ... at which point can the human eye even see the pixels?

People don't get it no matter how many times you'll say it. They just know "retina" but don't understand DPI and the human eye.

 

[fiveainone]

Hmm.. pretty boring wallpaper at full size..

 

[ToomeyND]

[/COLOR]

I think mavericks gives a bit of a tip of the hat to cougar, in terms of top gun. People keep saying the cougar is just a mountain lion, so maverick(s) is just better.

True that, but how do I go about patenting operating system names? I have a few that I think may be valuable in the coming years...

Half Dome (Or Yosemite, El Capitan, etc.)
Boardwalk (Santa ((Monica or Cruz)))
Redwood
Sequoia
Marijuana (Shout-out to Humbolt)
Napa
Blue Lake (for Tahoe)

And I'll throw in Fresno for good will to the central valley.

 

[potatis]

Thunderbolt 2 = 20 Gigabits

5120 * 2880 * 60 * (24 bits) = 19.7753906 Gigabits

Are you sure? I get 26.54 Gbit/s at:
http://www.emsai.net/projects/widescreen/bandwidth/

 

[thehustleman]

May have to sell the current imac and get the new one

 

[BeauPaul]

[/COLOR]

True that, but how do I go about patenting operating system names? I have a few that I think may be valuable in the coming years...

Half Dome (Or Yosemite, El Capitan, etc.)
Boardwalk (Santa ((Monica or Cruz)))
Redwood
Sequoia
Marijuana (Shout-out to Humbolt)
Napa
Blue Lake (for Tahoe)

And I'll throw in Fresno for good will to the central valley.

How about naming it after people in California . . .

OSX Nancy Pelosi . . . "You'll have to buy it to see what it does"

 

[Lullabye]

[/COLOR]

True that, but how do I go about patenting operating system names? I have a few that I think may be valuable in the coming years...

Half Dome (Or Yosemite, El Capitan, etc.)
Boardwalk (Santa ((Monica or Cruz)))
Redwood
Sequoia
Marijuana (Shout-out to Humbolt)
Napa
Blue Lake (for Tahoe)

And I'll throw in Fresno for good will to the central valley.

I vote for Napa and Tahoe

 

[Jensend]

People don't get it no matter how many times you'll say it. They just know "retina" but don't understand DPI and the human eye.

Let's say I want to design a spread of pages for a printed magazine. 2 Letter size pages at 300DPI. That would lead to a total resolution of 5100*3300, which would barely fit in the width of a 27" retina display, and still couldn't fit the height.

 

[TimTheEnchanter]

H2omg!

 

[AnonMac50]

I think mavericks gives a bit of a tip of the hat to cougar, in terms of top gun. People keep saying the cougar is just a mountain lion, so maverick(s) is just better.

Well cougars, panthers, pumas, and mountain lions are the essentially same thing, so it won't really matter.

 

[Eidorian]

And...the ASUS 4K panel at a whopping 60 Hz is $4,000.

 

[Jensend]

Are you sure? I get 26.54 Gbit/s at:
http://www.emsai.net/projects/widescreen/bandwidth/

That calculator is using 1000 bits per Kilobit. I used google, which gave 1024 bits per Kilobit.

edit: looks like data transfer rates use 1000 instead of 1024 :-(

edit2: but 26.54 is for 30 bit color, while the notes on the site say 24bit .

 

[GuitarDTO]

Of all of today's events, THIS one has me excited. I am drooling at the thought of doing my photography editing on a display supporting this resolution. THe next question is then, will the Macbook Pro's support it, or only the new Mac Pro?

 

[lannisters4life]

This does not mean a new Retina display is coming... There are plenty of screens that already have a 5120 x 2880 resolution already.

Are there?

 

[Tech198]

Thunderbolt 2 is probably all well and good, but Apple's still not getting it, and they still think Thunderbolt is the future ....

How many PC's have thunderbolt in the world, and how many add-on cards can you get to ad Thunderbolt to a PC's ? Not many....

Its all about ahead .... Speed may be great, and Apple can promote "faster this" and "faster that", but unless all PC's use it, its just another faster limited connection thats only Apple devices can use..

 

[MikhailT]

Do you really need a retina display for a desktop monitor? Aren't most users like 2 - 3 feet away from the monitor ... at which point can the human eye even see the pixels?

Yes, we can. I have the 27" Cinema and I can see the blurry text effect after my eyes are already adjusted to my rMBP and iPad. I see all the pixels even at 3 feet away.

 

[repoman27]

Thunderbolt 2 = 20 Gigabits

5120 * 2880 * 60 * (24 bits) = 19.7753906 Gigabits

Because of the following:

1) The current TB/DP supports 10Gbps, which 2560x1600 displays does not saturate via each TB/DP port.
2) Internal Display is internally connected to the GPU, so the external protocol doesn't matter
3) The 5120x2880 requires ~15Gbps of data throughput, something current TB cannot do. Thus, TB2 is required with its 20Gbps channels.

Are you sure? I get 26.54 Gbit/s at:
http://www.emsai.net/projects/widescreen/bandwidth/

Thunderbolt 2 may be able to do 20 Gbit/s, but DisplayPort 1.2 can only muster 17.28 Gbit/s. That pretty much limits external displays connected via a single cable to normal 4K resolutions (3840x2160 or 4096x2160).

5120x2880, 24 bpp, 60 Hz using CVT with reduced blanking works out to 22.52 Gbit/s. I suppose you could cram it over DP 1.2 by dropping the color depth to 18 bpp, which would only require 16.89 Gbit/s.

 

[MikhailT]

Thunderbolt 2 is probably all well and good, but Apple's still not getting it, and they still think Thunderbolt is the future ....

How many PC's have thunderbolt in the world, and how many add-on cards can you get to ad Thunderbolt to a PC's ? Not many....

Its all about ahead .... Speed may be great, and Apple can promote "faster this" and "faster that", but unless all PC's use it, its just another faster limited connection thats only Apple devices can use..

And what is Apple not getting? Apple doesn't care about PCs, why would they?

Intel is the company to blame here, they're the one making it difficult for companies to use TB.

Also, What is Apple supposed to do instead? You do understand USB 3 is not great for low-latency and low CPU type of situations like displays and real-time editing? TB does this much better than USB 3. For most folks, they don't need TB, so the # of devices out there are low.

----------

Thunderbolt 2 may be able to do 20 Gbit/s, but DisplayPort 1.2 can only muster 17.28 Gbit/s. That pretty much limits external displays connected via a single cable to normal 4K resolutions (3840x2160 or 4096x2160).

5120x2880, 24 bpp, 60 Hz using CVT with reduced blanking works out to 22.52 Gbit/s. I suppose you could cram it over DP 1.2 by dropping the color depth to 18 bpp, which would only require 16.89 Gbit/s.

Anandtech explains it here: http://anandtech.com/show/7049/intel-thunderbolt-2-everything-you-need-to-know

 

[bag of kittens]

[/COLOR]

True that, but how do I go about patenting operating system names? I have a few that I think may be valuable in the coming years...

Half Dome (Or Yosemite, El Capitan, etc.)
Boardwalk (Santa ((Monica or Cruz)))
Redwood
Sequoia
Marijuana (Shout-out to Humbolt)
Napa
Blue Lake (for Tahoe)

And I'll throw in Fresno for good will to the central valley.

Redwood and Sequoia would be great names for operating systems. Anything Yosemite related, too.

 

[Tech198]

And what is Apple not getting? Apple doesn't care about PCs, why would they?

Intel is the company to blame here, they're the one making it difficult for companies to use TB.

Also, What is Apple supposed to do instead? You do understand USB 3 is not great for low-latency and low CPU type of situations like displays and real-time editing? TB does this much better than USB 3. For most folks, they don't need TB, so the # of devices out there are low.

Yes.. Intel, not Apple

Yes. USB 3 is not good for real time editing..... But Thunderbolt is...... So, bring Thunderbolt to PC's then they'll be happy......

They don't need thunderbolt, but they need USB 3 ? err... how does that work ? People want performance ..... WHy wouldn't they want real time ?

I bet everyone would be happy with TB on PC's.... You can do everything with Thunderbolt, you can do with USB 3, and more.. So why wouldn't you want more of this TB performance,? I would..

And just like USB 3, if people don't care about performance much, then they don't use the speeds

 

[aloshka]

Do you really need a retina display for a desktop monitor? Aren't most users like 2 - 3 feet away from the monitor ... at which point can the human eye even see the pixels?

I thought this as well for a while. But truth be told, even at 10 ft a retina iphone looks sharper and crisper than standard. Same goes with my retina. Granted you can't see pixels, but don't curves, etc, look sharper.