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Apple Posts First iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c Product Videos
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Sadly Apple are playing the "Sergey Bubka game" to extreme lengths.
In short he was a USSR pole vaulter. He was a superstar and got paid every time he broke the world record.
So, of course he broke the world record (as little as he could) in competitions. That way he could continue to break it many, many times and get more money...
So there you have it. Apple could make excellent products "right of the bat". But the have chosen to make small incremental steps so they can sell more products and make more money. Hence iPhone 3-3GS, 4-4S, 5-5S/C.
This has worked fine - Until the competition caught up, and passed.
Nokia now has a phone with a better camera (Lumia 1020). Samsung has a better (and bigger) screen, ppi = 386, iPhone 5* 326.
Sony Xperia Z1 also has a better camera, better (and bigger) screen. Even LG beats the new iPhone 5S/C hands down.
More memory (SD-card up to 64 GB) is available to Galaxy Note 3 and Xperia Z1.
I can go on and on, but I think you get the picture.
iPhone 5 S/C is clearly behind in the "smartphone-race". Only the "Ecosystem" keeps people loyal nowadays.
No they're not - they're releasing a product that outsells the previous one every year.
I know you, and the rest of the people that comment on tech blogs, like to say Apple is doomed but that doesn't make it true.
Take a look at this online dictionarys definition of the word innovate:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/innovate
It clearly states:
To begin or introduce (something new) for or as if for the first time.
Not much "refining" in that definition.
So you were wrong when you stated that to refine something already known/existing is innovation.
Me-You 1-0
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Still their (iOS) market share is shrinking fast, really fast!
If they can't break that spiral downwords...Well, they may follow BlackBerry sooner than anyone could have guessed.
Right now Android has about 80% of the market share!
iPhone has about 13%...
And going down... I predict that Apple will have huge problems 2014, mainly because of this weak upgrade (iPhone 5S/C).
People have no patience and will switch to Android and Windows smartphones in great numbers.
Yes, SIZE DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
pretty good videos...but that's all they are. these updates were generally disappointing. i think this article sums it up pretty well:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-57602264-233/five-disappointing-things-about-the-iphone-5s/
One other thing I'll add is that the 5C isn't low cost enough, and it's very unclear who this product is for...as I've been saying, those who want a low cost iphone are best off with a previous gen model than a plastic fisher-price phone.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-57602264-233/five-disappointing-things-about-the-iphone-5s/
One other thing I'll add is that the 5C isn't low cost enough, and it's very unclear who this product is for...as I've been saying, those who want a low cost iphone are best off with a previous gen model than a plastic fisher-price phone.
One might wonder why you find it distracting. I didn't even notice what Ive was wearing, much less how much hair he was or wasn't showing.
motorcycle racing game
Does anyone know the name of the motorcycle racing game that was shown momentarily one of the presentation videos?
Does anyone know the name of the motorcycle racing game that was shown momentarily one of the presentation videos?
LOL! And now that you've written it here, later on, folks will be pi$$ed off that Apple didn't deliver on time travelling iPads like they 'promised' back in September....
You may be right, a 5 big screen @ 1080p it may not be an innovation but how about a new champagne color! Is this innovation for you and Apple!!!
Well my friend if this new champagne color is innovation, I hope Apple will patent this before Samsung
Hey be nice! I can practically hear the soundtrack for its ad in my head. "Someday you will find me. Caught beneath a landslide. With a champagne colored iPhone in the sky."
Michael
You're forgetting a huge point in all of this.
In the real world, if Apple makes an iPhone with revolutionary feature X, they need to be prepared to reliably manufacture 10 million of them a month to meet demand.
And if the components needed for revolutionary feature X are very expensive AND in short supply because they are so new and groundbreaking, then what?
That's incidental. He's not wearing those clothes to show off chest hair, but because they are plain, minimalist clothes without ornamentation, to go with his minimalist hair style -- as someone whose life goal is reduction, reduction and reduction might be expected to do.
Enjoy it while it lasts, because in 5 years he'll have shortened his name to "JnIv" and he'll be appearing nude in the videos, with shaved body hair and shaved eyebrows.
People come up with the funniest, most far fetched, reasons to not like a new iPhone.
Okay you're getting hung up on semantics. Cheapest price possible for Apple. They're not going to sell you a phone at cost. They need to maintain their profit margins. These margins tend to be a bit higher than some other manufactures but that's because of the "Apple premium." You're paying for their ecosystem. And to a lesser extent their design and status.
If you don't want hardware and software to integrate together in a beautiful package then go buy a Samesung.
I've been waiting since 2007 for a proper larger screen.
Can we just "Think Different" for a change!
Really? Since 2007? In 2007 the first iPhone's screen was exceptionally large for a phone. The haters made fun of iPhone users holding that 'huge slab' up to their ears.
It actually isn't. There are hardware changes. Get your facts straight.
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So you demand innovation but you're not going to say what that innovation is. Instead you come up with this anecdote about how you're some sort of smartphone jesus and once your ideas make it to the market they will revolutionize the industry. Fantastic.
Nope...still not sold
I'm still happy with my 32 gb 3GS.
Phone, iPod, texts, TomTom and occasional Angry Birds etc, all on a Tesco sim (UK supermarket chain) for £10 per month...nuff said
I ditched my iPads this year and bought 3 Galaxy tabs for me and the family. There is more to life than Apple.
I'm still happy with my 32 gb 3GS.
Phone, iPod, texts, TomTom and occasional Angry Birds etc, all on a Tesco sim (UK supermarket chain) for £10 per month...nuff said
I ditched my iPads this year and bought 3 Galaxy tabs for me and the family. There is more to life than Apple.
Because game changers are a huge part of Apple's identity and success. Fair? No, not in the least. But they joined the mobile telephony game very, very late, when we already had our Nokias and Blackberries and Motorolas and Samsungs and SonyEricssons, so they weren't technically "welcome" unless they had something outlandishly good to bring to the table, which they did. And they got to keep it for about 2 years before others copied the crap out of them. It wasn't going to last forever. Fair? Perhaps not, but no different than any other business. And they've done exceedingly well, for newcomers on that market. It could just as easily have gone the Zune and Surface way.
Also, Apple kind of brought the high expectations upon themselves by announcing their products with the most loud and elaborate drum rolls in the biz. Stop the world, we have something to show. It's been that way ever since Jobs announced the Mac in 1984. Sometimes the products have been game changers, sometimes they haven't but we've been told so anyway.
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Yes, I demand innovation!
Do you know a guy named Steve Jobs? He said that without innovation Apple dies...
And that is what almost happened to Apple when Steve was not there...
Well, he came back (SJ), sorted out things, and was extremely successful.
Now he is gone...
EPIC FAIL for Ming Chi Kuo who "expects the so-called "iPhone 5C" to cost between $400 and $500 without a contract subsidy"
Macrumors should stop quoting this guy as a primary source of rumors
Macrumors should stop quoting this guy as a primary source of rumors