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Apple Power adaptor HUGE!
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My MBP power adapter is huge !
But is has speakers built in, an usb-hub and a high definition LED- panel, I love it !
But is has speakers built in, an usb-hub and a high definition LED- panel, I love it !
The flaw in your logic is that you have no authority to decide what is "tiny" and what isn't tiny. This thread is mainly just arguing about semantics.
This is a fairly short-sighted and flawed statement as well. It doesn't matter how "secure" an operating system is or isn't, 99% of all problems start with the user. Operating systems are hard to manipulate. Some are harder than others, but it almost always boils down to a weak, dictionary password, unencrypted sessions, or some other user-created security hole that an attacker can exploit. I know that this will be hard for you to swallow, but anyone in the computer security industry will tell you the same thing.
So it's way thinner, but it's a lot longer, so if you compare total dimensions, the Dell is actually slightly *bigger* overall, and that's just the adapter part.This is the adaptor I’m talking about:
I hope Apple can do something with their next line ups. Carrying the huge brick is nearly half the problem.
It also doesn't appear to offer the duckhead option (so you don't have to carry around an extra 6 feet of cable if you don't need it), the way you wind the cables up when you travel makes it super thick (i.e. it won't fit into a pocket on a laptop sleeve), and it doesn't have MagSafe (which always makes me feel a little easier when I'm working in a public place, like an airport or restaurant).
Out of curiosity, how old is your MBP? Are you carrying around one of the old-school MBP adapters that actually are kind of big, or do you have one the newer ones that are the same size as the MacBook adapter?
Looks like someone has already compared the sizes here:
http://www.sizeasy.com/page/size_comparison/25264-Dell-XPS-vs-MagSafe-85W
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http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/review-thinkpad-and-lenovo-90w-slim-acdc-combo-adapter-2008035/
This adapter is around the size of an iPhone, charges your mobile, works with any Thinkpad at home, in the car, or on an airplane.
BTW, I've used Windows connected to the internet since Windows 3.1 and I have NEVER caught a virus. I did catch some adware one time but that was because of the flash vulnerability.
This adapter is around the size of an iPhone, charges your mobile, works with any Thinkpad at home, in the car, or on an airplane.
BTW, I've used Windows connected to the internet since Windows 3.1 and I have NEVER caught a virus. I did catch some adware one time but that was because of the flash vulnerability.
Lets get serious here people.
We need to know the exact volume of each adapter before we can sleep at night. Someone needs to measure length, width and depth of the adapters. Then we will know for sure.
We need to know the exact volume of each adapter before we can sleep at night. Someone needs to measure length, width and depth of the adapters. Then we will know for sure.
Shouldn't we be focusing on the laptop itself?
The problem with a power adapter is not the weight or size. It's the necessity of continuously using one at home/business meeting/airplane/backpacking trip when devices like Kindle provide an alternative for at least specific tasks. As I understand, both Apple And Dell try to provide an alternative by either intelligent battery control software or by using a second 9/12 cell battery in place of a CD/DVD/Blu ray hard drive. Nevertheless much work remains on making modern users reasonably productive without being tied to Internet or power grid by physical cords. I don't think babies should throw stones at glass houses at this point, because we all are still babies.
The problem with a power adapter is not the weight or size. It's the necessity of continuously using one at home/business meeting/airplane/backpacking trip when devices like Kindle provide an alternative for at least specific tasks. As I understand, both Apple And Dell try to provide an alternative by either intelligent battery control software or by using a second 9/12 cell battery in place of a CD/DVD/Blu ray hard drive. Nevertheless much work remains on making modern users reasonably productive without being tied to Internet or power grid by physical cords. I don't think babies should throw stones at glass houses at this point, because we all are still babies.
Would you rather have a scratchtastic plastic adapter that you can buff out if it *really* bothers you, or a scratchtastic aluminum adapter that you *can't* buff out if it really bothers you?
Dell = 140mm x 70mm x 15mm = 147 ccmAccording to sizeasy,
Dell = 140mm x 70mm x 15mm
Apple = 76mm x 76mm x 25mm
Now you can sleep.
Apple = 76mm x 76mm x 25mm = 144 ccm
So how "much' bigger is the Apple power-supply now? OP, the Dell might look smaller, but it ain't.
The *security* inherent in the Win7 is pretty similar to OS X - barring exploits they're pretty much immune from viruses (trojans are another matter) - of course the search for exploits and browser-based social engineering attacks has traditionally been concentrated on PCs.
Malware and trojan executables compiled for Windows won't work on the Mac directly, so this provides a huge advantage for the Mac at the moment.
Additionally the terrible default setup of Windows XP (which is nearly a decade old!) and user ignorance conspire to make Windows insecure.
Azathoth, is that not what Microsoft praised about NT, XP, & Vista? I doubt Windows 7. Once a month patches I can't wait... Not to forget the Beta patches, which forces some companies to test patches every 2 weeks!
First of as shown above, the adapter is not THAT small and Apple adapter is NOT that big. One is slim and long, other is short and chubby (like me ).
2nd. Whats with the hate of PC. I'm what i call a universal user, I use both PCs and Macs. I own a Dell Vostro and a 13MBP.
I've been using Windows for a LONG time. Windows 7 is so far the best it's been and I see it contending with OSX. Oh did I mention I have never gotten a virus on my PC? It's silly that mac fanboys think as soon as you plug a PC to the internet, it's automatically infected. like this guy http://www.cultofmac.com/win7review/10796
Seriously? Is HE the definition of a mac fanny?
Apple SHOULD be worried, and Honestly, I think IT IS worried. Windows 7 in doing great is sales.
Again, I'm sometimes ashamed to call myself a mac user, especially after reading the review I posted above.
).2nd. Whats with the hate of PC. I'm what i call a universal user, I use both PCs and Macs. I own a Dell Vostro and a 13MBP.
I've been using Windows for a LONG time. Windows 7 is so far the best it's been and I see it contending with OSX. Oh did I mention I have never gotten a virus on my PC? It's silly that mac fanboys think as soon as you plug a PC to the internet, it's automatically infected. like this guy http://www.cultofmac.com/win7review/10796
Seriously? Is HE the definition of a mac fanny?
Apple SHOULD be worried, and Honestly, I think IT IS worried. Windows 7 in doing great is sales.
Again, I'm sometimes ashamed to call myself a mac user, especially after reading the review I posted above.
OS patches are a fact of life.
Microsoft releases patches on a set schedule -- the second Tuesday of every month (although serious vulns can warrant a patch that comes out sooner). They also give out gobs of information about the patches .. IN ADVANCE .. to anyone that cares to read. Granted, this method is in place because things were so slapshot with them in the past, but ....
Apple releases patches on a random basis with no advanced notice, usually late in the day (Eastern time, anyway).
So if you're in charge of patch management for a company, which method would you prefer? The one that runs on a regular schedule, allowing you to arrange your resources in advance, or the one that happens with no notice, making you drop every when it happens?
Same. My career for the last decade has been managing enterprise Windows networks, although I'm Mac at home.
I've had very little problems with viruses on Windows either, but that's apparently that's a "me" thing, as most of my friends and family that use Windows end up having big time issues with them (that I end up fixing for them).
I think that for Windows users, you and I are in the minority when it comes to this, at least in the XP world. I've had to fix far fewer Vista systems for friends and family, so that's a good sign.
Why, is being unbiased bad?
WTF? And Apple doesn't patch?
"In bare bones Delta form, Mac OS X 10.6.2 currently weighs in at roughly 480MB. It's expected for release sometime next month. "
Moreover, Apple have traditionally been very tight-lipped regarding what security vunerabilities they've patched. Don't for a moment think that OS X is magically inherently more secure.
Any system, as complex as OS X or Windows 7 will have a huge number of undiscovered vulnerabilties.
Of all the things to troll about, it seems like this is going to be one of the most ridiculous. I'll bite, though.
Compared to a standard laptop power adaptor, the "huge Apple brick" that's too heavy for you to carry around isn't very large.
You're comparing a unique, smaller new adaptor to the Apple power source that's been around for years now. This is Dell's old power adaptor:
Not so compact, is it?
I agree to a certain extent, sure they could be smaller. It becomes a problem in backpacks like the compact InCase pack Apple sells and I prefer. The previous generation of that backpack had a spot to put the power adaptor that pushed it directly into the back of the screen while being carried, and formed permanent white spots on the view side of the display.
Now, this isn't Apple's fault per se, but they are selling laptop cases that have nowhere to put the power adaptor. 'Sayin.
The power adaptor itself also has some problems. If you use the included hooks to wind up the cord, eventually the cord will fray and pull out. Even if it doesn't, when it's wrapped up, it makes the adaptor bulky, and hard to find a spot for in a bag.
I agree it's time for a revamp, but I don't think it's anything to panic about.
No it's not bad at all, but I'm afraid you did not read the "review" I linked. It's anything BUT unbias. I was referring to the fact that the reviewer REFUSED to hook up the windows 7 machine to the internet because he feared that as soon as he connected to the web his machine would be infected. Silly, and utterly false assumption.
It's not that OSX is such a secured OS that it's not penetrable, it's that Windows gets attacked more often. Most people who want to do damage do it on windows because of their ability to reach a much bigger target public. If you had the same amount of people attacking the OSX, Apple would be crapping their pants.
Ah, yeah, I thought you meant your "review" of Windows 7 being the best that Window's has ever been. I agree with that, so I was joking about you not needed to be embarrassed from such an unbiased review (that I happen to agree with). D
I don't read Cult of Mac (the site you linked to) or Roughly Drafted because they ARE biased. Having said that, there are biased Windows and Linux blogs/fanboys out there. As a user of all of those OSs, I don't feel that the biased people represent me, so I'd never say "I was embarrassed" because of a blog post that Cult of Mac did. That's all.
I don't totally track with the "market size equals vulnerability" logic. It's true to some point, but if you sit down and look at the methodology that the "bad guys" use to turn XP machines into botnet zombies, very few of those methods will work in OS X. Or Linux. Or Vista/Windows 7. As these other OSs gain more and more marketshare (and Windows XP becomes a minority), I don't think we're ever going to see an OS with as many security issues as XP.
DI don't read Cult of Mac (the site you linked to) or Roughly Drafted because they ARE biased. Having said that, there are biased Windows and Linux blogs/fanboys out there. As a user of all of those OSs, I don't feel that the biased people represent me, so I'd never say "I was embarrassed" because of a blog post that Cult of Mac did. That's all.
I don't totally track with the "market size equals vulnerability" logic. It's true to some point, but if you sit down and look at the methodology that the "bad guys" use to turn XP machines into botnet zombies, very few of those methods will work in OS X. Or Linux. Or Vista/Windows 7. As these other OSs gain more and more marketshare (and Windows XP becomes a minority), I don't think we're ever going to see an OS with as many security issues as XP.
I think youre comparing the regular adaptor:
The one I tried out was tiny (as big as an iPhone)
Nope, the Dells we use at work have the same thin, long power supplies at the picture in your original post.I think youre comparing the regular adaptor:
The one I tried out was tiny (as big as an iPhone)
Dear MS fanboy,
I'm glad to hear that you think widows is as secure as OS X.
Love,
me.
What does magsafe have to do with the power adaptor? It's just a plug at the end of the cable.
You really need to compare the wattage of the 2 before you can compare the size. I don't think the Dell adaptor is bigger than the MacBook Air's (45W).
I think Apple power adaptors are really well designed. Dell has integrated cable winder, but that's it. Other companies just give you a brick! That said, no matter how good it is, one can't be complacent and think there's no room for improvement.
Metal power adaptors are a bad idea. Just think of the grounding problems on MacBooks, and apply them to the adaptor...
You really need to compare the wattage of the 2 before you can compare the size. I don't think the Dell adaptor is bigger than the MacBook Air's (45W).
I think Apple power adaptors are really well designed. Dell has integrated cable winder, but that's it. Other companies just give you a brick! That said, no matter how good it is, one can't be complacent and think there's no room for improvement.
Metal power adaptors are a bad idea. Just think of the grounding problems on MacBooks, and apply them to the adaptor...