In addition to losing heat or A/C, wouldn’t those large doors let a bunch of wind in blowing around? Not to mention potential bugs and birds. Doesn’t seem practical.
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Apple Previews Latest Mexico City Store With Large Sliding Glass Doors, Opens Friday
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Hot and humid in CDMX is an exception, not the rule. It´s the altitude of approximately Denver.
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Probably doesn’t have heat or ac. Even schools doesn’t have either.
in Toluca, gets down to freezing and 9000 ft, nobody or business has heat. Lived there 10 years relatives still there, daughter and 2 sons in cdmx.
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So it costs around 2 or 3 iPhone XS Max screens.
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this sounds like confidential business information that should not be on MacRumors, especially since the identity of “we” can be easily discovered by Apple.
Lol. Do you seriously think anything like that is protected in Mxico? Good luck taking it to Mexican court.
I don’t think the issue is being taken to court but rather your employer finding out.
But anyway I’m 100% sure Mexico is a serious country (emigration and drug-trafficking issues aside) and there certainly is a maket for Apple in the 10% or so of people in the country that can afford an $1099 iPhone.
Thanks for worrying, but I'm just disclosing they were our clients and they know we can say so. It's actually part of the contract for us to have the right to market our services by naming clients and general scopes of projects we were involved in, otherwise we wouldn't have anything documented to support our experience for future potential customers. We post that info on our website and CV distributions, no pictures of course.
Now, if I disclosed here the name of a company/client along the exact type of systems, control valves, specs, calcs, addresses and posted the plans and pics, then I would be disclosing confidential info. What I just said is comparable to "we did the floors and bathrooms for them." Fire sprinkler and smoke detection systems are actually pretty standard installations here in Mexico for companies in executive buildings and industrial installations.
And even though I'm many times critical of many of their current policies, I'm actually proud we were able to offer our services for them, along comparable companies. That's why I mentioned it in the first place and why I stated I would have loved being in that construction site.
I’m 100% sure you are treading in unknown territory. I dońt think you have any idea how it is.
I am Mexican, raised 3 kids there. I know how serious the system is on stuff like this. It´s not. Copyright, etc. means nothing. Company confidentiality. Corruption. Apple probably paid more in bribes than anything.
Not sure what your point is about the market, but 6% own any apple product.
The whole world is NOT the us.
I love Mexico, but Mexico is a caveat emptor country, that applies to people with businesses also.
To get into the ‘lower’ upper 10% you need to make about 400 and something a month.
Mexico City is the largest city in the North America continent (Mexico, USA and Canada)
rmoliv, that’s an interesting point. However, it sounds like you’re saying that mx is full of poor people, therefore there shouldn’t be any Apple stores there to cater to the folks in the wealthier areas for people who can afford to buy Apple products, BECAUSE of the existence of poor people elsewhere in the country.
By continuing this logic, any country with any poor people anywhere in it should NOT have an Apple store, because it would be hypocritical to make something available to a portion of the populace that not ALL the populace is able to afford.
Every country on Earth has poor people, even if only by comparison to the rich. By rights, Apple should only be able to sell to places where the rich and poor alike have similar amounts of wealth. Like... Cuba? Are they still trying that little experiment there? I haven’t been keeping up with developments in their socioeconomic and political systems.
So... are you saying Apple is wrong to sell to rich people in a country that also has poor people, or that Apple is wrong to care about poverty, even while catering to the wealthy?
By the way, if it’s the latter, doesn’t that mean that anyone who works for someone more wealthy than themselves should be ashamed of giving to charity? How dare they help the less fortunate only PART of the time... right?
It seems like an untenable position.
Why, by the way, stop at the completely artificial and arbitrary political distinction without a real difference of “country”? Why not say Apple shouldn’t care about poverty or the poor, while selling to rich people on the same PLANET?
Also... while I’m on the topic, I find I’m unable to resist asking this question:
Whatever gave you the idea that Apple cared about poor people? Or are you conflating the “woke”-ness of Apple’s customer base with the company itself?
I suspect the issue is that to certain people, Mexico City doesn’t count because it’s not in a real country, like the US. Or that being most populace doesn’t count because the people being counted are... ugh... Mexicans.
/sarcasm
Honestly, the point I would have made is that it’s not the largest. Most POPULACE, sure, according to this list, assuming it’s accurate and up-to-date. Most dense? Quite possibly, given the very large number of people and relatively small geographical size. Largest? That’s a function of AREA. Mexico City isn’t even close. Neither is New York or Los Angeles. Chicago, Houston and the sprawling DFW Metroplex all beat the hell out of ALL of those, and they dwarf Mexico city.
More importantly... WHO CARES? Comparing the size of your city is like comparing the size of your ... no, not even YOUR OWN... comparing the size of someone NEAR YOU’s... It’s basically irrelevant.
No, actually... given how Apple decides where to locate its stores, this conversation is more like a bunch of intestinal parasite larvae comparing the size of the dog turd they’ve been excreted with. The BIGGER it is, the more flies it will attract.
Apple stores are attracted to sizable population areas with money to burn, and a desire for Apple’s highly polished, if sometimes staggeringly overpriced leavings. I mean, offerings. My point is, bragging about it is pointless, and arguing over it is SENSELESS.
Also, Apple will deliver their stuff for free, generally... SO... who cares? Oughhhheeewwwwww you have an (gasp) APPLE STORE where you can go play with their products before you fork over too much money for them. WOoooowwwwww... so special you are. By the way, any town with a Best Buy has one of those too.
It sounds like you all are treating having Apple deign to give your berg a store as a STATUS symbol.
Apple products have become geek “bling”.
Lady, I’ve got some bad news for you: wait until you’ve visited some cities that are really hot in the summer, like Monterrey, Mexicali, LA, Tucson, Phoenix or Houston.
And I mean hot for real, not temperate like Mexico City.
I didn’t say Mexico or any other country shouldn’t have an Apple Store based on the country’s wealth/wealth distribution (or lack thereof). I just pointed out that Apple’s discourse and communication strategy is all about diversity, inclusiveness and giving everyone the chance to access technology (just see a few Tim Cook interviews) but then when you look at their stores’ locations (especially in the “developing world”) they’re invariably located in these “upscale” neighborhoods where the “elite” lives. To me it doesn’t make much sense. I’m not saying that they should open a store in a South American favela or whatever its equivalent is in Mexico City, or in South Central LA as someone sarcastically mentioned, but maybe in a more “neutral” area, not specifically associated with “the rich”.
In the meantime, while Apple is bragging about large sliding glass doors... innovation has found somebody else... https://www.macrumors.com/2019/09/25/amazon-unveils-new-echo-devices/
Mexico City is not like Houston. The altitude is over 4000 ft and The average temperature in Mexico City during summer is 75 Farenheit.
Since when Apple products are oriented to the disadvantage d? Have you ever checked out their prices? Do you think a poor Mexico City resident can afford their products? Besides, a store with those giant glass doors will never survive in any other part of the city.
Are you from Finland or Siberia? Because only someone from an extremely cold region will find Mexico City to be that way. I was born in Mexico City and have lived there for most of my life, and I have never experienced an unbearable hot and humid day in Mexico City. In fact, we have the nicest climate in the entire country. Believed me, I have been inTexas and New York during the summer and I know the definition of Hot and humid.
At an altitude of over 7000 ft (2100 m) above sea level the weather in Mexico City doesn’t usually get too hot, so air conditioning is usually not needed. Temperatures very rarely rise above 85ºF there. And they also very rarely drop below 50ºF during the daytime, so no heat is needed either (though temps do go pretty low in the nights/early mornings in december or january, they start rising quickly as soon as the sun comes out).
You must have been at a beach resort or some other part of the country. Mexico City doesn’t have that kind of weather because it sits at an altitude of over 7000 ft (2100 m) above sea level and at least 200 mi away from any seashore. The weather there is rather dry, and throughout the year temperatures very rarely if at all rise above 86ºF at any time or drop below 50ºF during the daytime (though the nights in December and January can be decidedly chilly). During the summer even New York City, where you live, gets hotter than Mexico City.
She must have been in northern Mexico or some beach resort and thinks Mexico City has the same weather. I live in Puebla, where we have roughly the same weather as Mexico City, and she’s definitely wrong about it being hot and humid.
At least in part, Mexico’s banks are at fault for that. They are the ones who refuse to pay Apple’s fees (and also Google’s, since Google Pay is also still unavailable in Mexico) and therefore won’t allow their customers to have apple pay. I’m sure the phobia about americans that has always existed in Mexico must be a factor, too, in the banks’ decision to keep american tech giants out of the country’s financial system. It’s surely not a coincidence that the only tech company whose mobile wallet is available in Mexico is also the only one that’s not american (Samsung is based in Korea).
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Y otra en Puebla, que chula es Puebla.
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The altitude is actually just over 7000 ft, similar to the altitude of the rocky mountains.
Mexico City isn’t windy, and temperatures outside usually range between 40ºF (5ºC) and 86ºF (30ºC), so A/C or heat are rarely necessary. I wouldn’t be surprised if the store actually didn’t have either one installed. Plus, the doors are most likely automated and only open when someone walks into the store.
Mexico City is the most populated city, which is what matters in this case. Sure, Houston or Chicago may cover a much larger extension of land, but they’re not even close to Mexico City in terms of population. Houston, for example, has a population of about 3-4 million vs a population of over 25 million in the Mexico City metro area.
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Everywhere gets wind sometimes. Also storms occasionally. And until humans have finished killing off life on this planet, there will still be bugs and birds!
I think more like €30.000-€40.000
I would not disclose anything we do for Apple, we are a subcontractor, that's the Maximum I am going to say, Apple does not like this kind "revelation"
Yeah, they don't like people knowing what broomsticks you guys use to sweep their floors, or what toilet needs un-clugging.
Just stop it with the "I work for them too and it's all a secret" drama. Guess what? They even installed air conditioner ducts in their offices AND lights for them to see when the sun goes down. Try to sleep on that now that I gave you all of their secrets. You are my accomplice now. See you soon in Santa Martha Acatitla.
Do you actually read and understand what you reply to? who are you arguing with? That was my point, Not sure what you are babbling about. Do you understand english?
I am mexican and know cdmx very well. Most places with glass doors have roll up doors to cover them. Again, who said anything about putting them places like el observatorio? A store with unprotected glass doors will not make it most places in Mexico.
Preach at someone else. I have 3 adult children and other relatives in cdmx. I have spent a lot of time there.
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I like Toluca’s climate best really, or even better Valle de Bravo. Chilangos must think so too because it’s always full of them. I Like the cool weather. That’s where I am from (Toluca) still have relatives there and cdmx. Just left there a year ago.
Want to see hot? Try Mexicali and Ciudad Juarez.
New York? Too far north to even be close to the border area heat wise on either side.
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