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They can put all the fabulous security they like on iMessage, but it all seems kinda moot as long as it continues to failover to SMS without warning.
 
It would be nice if they also allowed mac login via yubico security keys besides biometry on the fancy keyboards or by proximity of the apple watch, more options are always good.
You can do this yourself by using PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules.)
 
Now if only we can get some of this security/privacy on Home Keys for HomeKit enabled smart locks. Currently, anyone added as a resident to the home gets a home key that they alone get to decide if express mode is enabled or not… not the actual lock/home owner. This means literally any resident (adult, kid, etc) can enable express mode on their home key and literally anyone who gains access to that phone can use it to unlock your front door without any authentication being done… and the owner of the lock has no say/no way to bar any resident from enabling express mode! Talk about a massive security risk at your front door! Come on Apple…
Yeah, and the owner of the house also can’t prevent someone from making their password “1111”

Every individual is responsible for the safety and security of their devices. If you don’t trust someone then either have a talk with them about improving their security posture or don’t add them as a home member.
 
There has always been an option to disable that functionality, if you're concerned about the security of it.
There’s an option, but failing over to an unencrypted format without warning by default isn’t a good look. And it’s not either completely on, or completely off. I’d like it on for messages where security isn’t important, and off where it is, and for messaging contacts aboard, where the SMS will be out of my contract and incur a charge. My sister in France seems to have a habit of turning her phone off overnight, so I just randomly get billed if I message after she’s gone to be.
 
Yeah, been like that forever but suddenly Chinese citizens started using it to avoid government censors and suddenly Apple wants to fix the "spam problem". You can't be serious.
How a technology is created is its focus. How people’s situations in use cases to use it is a completely different thing.

In the UK many boys (not men, men don’t do this) would send pics of their swollen members to women that have AirPlay on by default to accept from anyone for years! There is charges for doing this btw. Look it up.

That’s long before recent events of lockdowns in mainland China where citizens there have to go against internet restrictions to leak out such atrocities therein.

Again technologies main use - sharing files (pics videos and documents & websites) amongst iPhone and Mac users is different form an end users purpose to use the tech doesn’t change what the tech is designed for or is.
 
Yeah, and the owner of the house also can’t prevent someone from making their password “1111”

Every individual is responsible for the safety and security of their devices. If you don’t trust someone then either have a talk with them about improving their security posture or don’t add them as a home member.
Allowing the home owner to require “biometrics” for a lock is totally within Apple’s realm and then the bogus password doesn’t matter either… sure, they could add their friend to biometrics, but now you’re reaching. The idea is to keep a stranger from finding the key and being able to use it… an easy password is on an order of magnitudes different than biometrics.
 
Allowing the home owner to require “biometrics” for a lock is totally within Apple’s realm and then the bogus password doesn’t matter either… sure, they could add their friend to biometrics, but now you’re reaching. The idea is to keep a stranger from finding the key and being able to use it… an easy password is on an order of magnitudes different than biometrics.
Biometrics are agreed to be objectively less secure than a passcode.

Yeah, maybe Apple should allow the lock owner to disable express mode for the lock though.
 
Ah, awesome. Having Yubikey support is precisely what we need for absolute security. I'm glad to see Apple finally allow you to use it, although it does mean I'll need a lightning to USB-C adaptor, unfortunately.
You could migrate to a 5ci key - I bought one a few years ago and it’s fit every need so far except no NFC
 
Yeah, been like that forever but suddenly Chinese citizens started using it to avoid government censors and suddenly Apple wants to fix the "spam problem". You can't be serious.

I may have replied to this before but thinking about it. How come we’re not hearing anything on the android side related to censorship and control within this country related to mobile OS. As a matter of extension curious why noting in desktop OS are not even considered or mentioned if any action at all has been taken.

Only time will tell, but Apple has to play by the rules in said country. Their willingness to abide yet also showing what’s possible is enough to shake things about. Imagine if no AirDrop was possible?

Imagine in a crowded protest people be rummaging about trying to bump android phones for NFC sharing and over Bluetooth lol 😂/s
 
I may have replied to this before but thinking about it. How come we’re not hearing anything on the android side related to censorship and control within this country related to mobile OS. As a matter of extension curious why noting in desktop OS are not even considered or mentioned if any action at all has been taken.
Might be because Google doesn't pretend to be the protector of human rights and privacy.
 
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They can put all the fabulous security they like on iMessage, but it all seems kinda moot as long as it continues to failover to SMS without warning.
Turn that option off in settings.

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I really wish the journalists on this site were a tiny bit more critical of Apple, rather than just copy pasting press releases. Even if this is true and implemented it still serves Apple to provide customers with a false sense of privacy.

Apple does not care about your privacy. They are ramping up their ads on all their platforms. They are still storing the key to decrypt all your messages into the backup which often is backed up on Google Data Centres.

They still haven't sworn off the entire photo library scanning they attempted last year.

The longer Apple fails to innovate majorly (think, ipod, iPhone, Watch) the more they will become a standard Coca Cola who will try to appease shareholders over customers. Apple in the wrong hands traps a lot of people into the walled garden.

The only safe app today is Signal and has been for the last half decade.
Where do you get off saying this kind of garbage? Do you have one shred of evidence, for example, that Apple is lying about iMessage security keys not being on icloud when you activate Advanced data protection? What evidence do you have to back up your claims? Do you have any evidence to back up your other claims?

I personally think they are telling the truth, and I will continue to think that until proven otherwise, then I will act.
 
I really wish the journalists on this site were a tiny bit more critical of Apple, rather than just copy pasting press releases. Even if this is true and implemented it still serves Apple to provide customers with a false sense of privacy.

Apple does not care about your privacy. They are ramping up their ads on all their platforms. They are still storing the key to decrypt all your messages into the backup which often is backed up on Google Data Centres.

They still haven't sworn off the entire photo library scanning they attempted last year.

The longer Apple fails to innovate majorly (think, ipod, iPhone, Watch) the more they will become a standard Coca Cola who will try to appease shareholders over customers. Apple in the wrong hands traps a lot of people into the walled garden.

The only safe app today is Signal and has been for the last half decade.
Security Keys for Apple ID will give users the choice to use third-party physical security keys to further protect their account.
 
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