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In my experience, I've never known the customs folks outside of the US to be quite as paranoid and anal as our own.

i traveled in europe always with a laptop, and i never seen or experienced or even heard of someone got problems, if you carry the laptop with you they'll never ask you for proof of purchase or proof that you left your home country with it.
 
Americans pay less income tax, have higher incomes, and pay less for their gadgets. Talk about ******** all round...

True that.

I am an Australian living in the US and have also lived/worked for at least 2 years in both Canada and also Europe.
In the long run, all things considered, the cost of living is considerably cheaper in the US (Seattle).
 
CRAP. That's crazy money...:eek:

It's literally cheaper to fly to NYC, pick one up at the Apple Store in Manhattan and fly home for that price!

i guess, but i will not travel to the states (personal reason) :p and i actually already have one in the mail coming to me (a friend in the u.s bought it for me) so i just have to hope that the package pass customs without problems! keep your fingers crossed for me guys :D
 
What we do in mexico is to go to the US, buy a mac and then like get rid of the boxes and stuff and pass it off as a computer you already had.

Or you can say it's a gift (for yourself :p) and I don't think they charge for gifts.

That FTA doesn't really work as well as one would hope. (At least for mexico :p)

That's how I got my Wii too :p. I mean it's like $5000 pesos over here (like 460 USD). That's almost twice the price. wtf.
 
Well, I refuse to go to Europe for personal reasons myself, so maybe we could do a swap - next time you need a laptop I'll mail you one in return for a lifetime supply of absinthe. ;)
 
A little reality therapy: Apple cannot really afford to "gouge" their customers abroad. Like any other company which sells products around the world, their prices are dictated by the currency markets and competition.

Applying a little arithmetic, Apple's price for its products in Australia seem to be based on an exchange rate of roughly $0.70 AU to $1.00 US, which lo-and-behold, is close to the average exchange rate between the currencies until recently. If Australians (and just about everybody else) are suddenly finding that their currencies are buying more in US dollars, it's because the US dollar has weakened a lot during the past year. Is Apple making more on selling products abroad now? Probably yes, but that's in the nature of currency fluctuations -- when the dollar was stronger, they were making less.

If Australians want to experience the full power of their stronger currency, then they need to leave the country to spend it, because they are never going to see more than a fraction of it at home.
 
Well, I refuse to go to Europe for personal reasons myself, so maybe we could do a swap - next time you need a laptop I'll mail you one in return for a lifetime supply of absinthe. ;)

I always thought that Blackadder did come from Europe? ;) And Absinthe is overrated; it's just alsmost the same as Pastis (actually, Pastis was made after Absynthe was banned) and you don't get high on either of them ;)
 
I always thought that Blackadder did come from Europe? ;) And Absinthe is overrated; it's just alsmost the same as Pastis (actually, Pastis was made after Absynthe was banned) and you don't get high on either of them ;)

This particular Blackadder is from the U S of A. In lieu of absinthe I will accept a supply of Westvleteren Trappist beer. Mmmmmm....;) :D
 
Damn, that even more expensive :) I hope your salary is equally high ;)

According to Gross National Product per capita, Norway is the second richest country in the world with Denmark trailing along on a fourth place ;)
 
Americans pay less income tax, have higher incomes, and pay less for their gadgets. Talk about ******** all round...

We also have some of the most expensive universities and health care because of our low(er) income tax (I still don't consider 30% low, but maybe that's just me).

The high(er) income tax in other countries usually cover the cost of Uni and health care.
 
We also have some of the most expensive universities and health care because of our low(er) income tax (I still don't consider 30% low, but maybe that's just me).

The high(er) income tax in other countries usually cover the cost of Uni and health care.

In Australia it peaks out at 43%, so it is actually not so bad.

And our GST is 10% throughout the country.
 
In Australia it peaks out at 43%, so it is actually not so bad.

And our GST is 10% throughout the country.

I should state also that our Income tax tops at just above 30%, and sales tax varies state to state. I pay 8.25% in Texas, but certain goods in some states go as high at 14.5%.

Indeed it seems like in Australia you're getting less for more. Most countries with a income tax higher than ours provide breaks in other areas.
 
I should state also that our Income tax tops at just above 30%, and sales tax varies state to state. I pay 8.25% in Texas, but certain goods in some states go as high at 14.5%.

Indeed it seems like in Australia you're getting less for more. Most countries with a income tax higher than ours provide breaks in other areas.

On the upside we have medicare, but that's about it.
 
That's what I love about living here in Monterrey (Mexico) which is very close to the border. I can go to McAllen, Texas and pick up anything in american dollars, then return to Monterrey and everything within the same day. God bless my visa, it's paying itself.
 
The Australian Dollar is coming of something like a 5 year high so it looks bad now in a month or so we will only be paying a hundred more or so
 
The Australian Dollar is coming of something like a 5 year high so it looks bad now in a month or so we will only be paying a hundred more or so

No, you will be paying exactly the same price you always have. The mistake many are making here is looking at the weak U.S. dollar, and wondering why Apple isn't lowering the prices of their products in their country to account for them.
 
No, you will be paying exactly the same price you always have. The mistake many are making here is looking at the weak U.S. dollar, and wondering why Apple isn't lowering the prices of their products in their country to account for them.

If the US dollar has truly fallen, then why are we subsidizing the reduced profits Apple is making in the states?

Macs are made in China, the strength of the US dollar is not relevant.
 
If the US dollar has truly fallen, then why are we subsidizing the reduced profits Apple is making in the states?

Macs are made in China, the strength of the US dollar is not relevant.

The U.S. dollar has truly fallen. A lot.

Apple is not selling commodities. They don't lower the price of their products abroad when the dollar falls, and they don't raise them when the dollar strengthens. In fact they rarely change the retail price of any of the products they sell after they are introduced. Not anywhere, not for any reason.

So you are not "subsidizing" anything. The price you pay has not changed. You are only harboring the illusion that you are paying more, due to the exchange rate improving in your favor. As I said earlier, the only way to really enjoy that improvement is to spend your money abroad because very little of it will be passed along to you at home -- not by any company, Apple included.
 
MacBook

hey, I'm considering buying a MacBook through amazon and getting a (roughly) $500 saving.. i've never used amazon before, so can anyone tell me how much more it will cost me to get it shipped to Australia?

and also, what problems would i be faced with by buying an american model? i know the wall charger would be different, but there are solutions to that (i.e. American to Australian adapter things)... Are there any other problems that would occur that i haven't thought of?

thanks in advance...
 
Strictly as an acedemic thought experiment, mind you, but if you travel internationally, and have the laptop in your usual carry-on bag - I mean, it's the one you left the country with, right, what mechanism is there to validate that?

In my experience, I've never known the customs folks outside of the US to be quite as paranoid and anal as our own.
True story. Coming back from Switzerland I picked up a few cigarettes on the cheap for a friend of my dad's, and the limit is 200. "Best not push it," I thought, and bought one carton of 200.

So I get back to Britain, the customs desk is unmanned and there's guys literally running through with bags that are blatantly packed with all the booze, fags and other consumables that they could get their grubby wee mitts on.

Next time I go abroad you'd best believe I'm picking up some Apple stuff, especially if it's a portable.
 
hey, I'm considering buying a MacBook through amazon and getting a (roughly) $500 saving.. i've never used amazon before, so can anyone tell me how much more it will cost me to get it shipped to Australia?

and also, what problems would i be faced with by buying an american model? i know the wall charger would be different, but there are solutions to that (i.e. American to Australian adapter things)... Are there any other problems that would occur that i haven't thought of?

thanks in advance...

Amazon's international shipping policies:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=596184

Note references to customs and duties. I presume you will also not be able escape your sales tax.
 
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