I doubt he cares...he's just a corporate mouthpiece
To quote Val Kilmer playing Jim Morrison in The Doors: "let's keep this money machine rolling!"
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I doubt he cares...he's just a corporate mouthpiece
To quote Val Kilmer playing Jim Morrison in The Doors: "let's keep this money machine rolling!"
That’s why those who know what they’re doing disable updates on their phones until the dust settles. Let someone else be the Guinea pig. 🤷♂️
This is the first time Apple made me “think different” and I hate it. 😔
Disabling updates is the first thing I do when I get a new device (although I have no plans on a new device of any kind anyway) but with Apple it's much harder to do. Even if you turn off 'auto updates' it still pops up a screen that's easy to hit the wrong button then you're committed. Blocking updates at the router, turning off wifi isn't a 100% permanent solution, either. Eventually it will self-install whether you like it or not.
That's Apple for ya. I just had to configure some of the settings for my Google Home Hubs (I've severely gimped Assistant to where all it does now is talk to local IoT devices) with the Google Home app. Since Play Services and such are all disabled on my Androids, I naturally fired up an old iPod Touch that runs iOS 12, thinking it'd be as private as can be, and the app was still installed and worked. It just tried to download and auto install (it at least notified it'd auto install tonight until I deleted it) iOS 14!!! It's a 5th Gen iPod touch! It shouldn't support iOS 14!!!
So Apple is apparently committed to update and include this in 'unsupported' hardware to an extent, or at least possibly include bits of it in older iOS versions via security patches? I shut it down once I was done with it. Back to the closet with it!
That's Apple for ya. I just had to configure some of the settings for my Google Home Hubs (I've severely gimped Assistant to where all it does now is talk to local IoT devices) with the Google Home app. Since Play Services and such are all disabled on my Androids, I naturally fired up an old iPod Touch that runs iOS 12, thinking it'd be as private as can be, and the app was still installed and worked. It just tried to download and auto install (it at least notified it'd auto install tonight until I deleted it) iOS 14!!! It's a 5th Gen iPod touch! It shouldn't support iOS 14!!!
So Apple is apparently committed to update and include this in 'unsupported' hardware to an extent, or at least possibly include bits of it in older iOS versions via security patches? I shut it down once I was done with it. Back to the closet with it!
Not-updating is not as difficult, actually. Disable auto-download and auto-install in the Settings and the only thing that might disturb you once the update comes out will be the red badge over the Settings icon. Same for macOS.
You can turn it off but it will constantly nag you. I dealt with it on my iPhone 6S, the last being my Apple TVs. They will continually spam you with endless nags that are easy to accidentally hit the wrong button, then you're stuck. The nag says "A new version of iOS is available' with 'details' or 'close' and it will come up many times a day. It isn't just a red badge anymore on the settings icon. It will bug you each time or two you unlock your device. If it were set to auto download it'd say 'The software update will auto install later tonight' or something to that effect.
There have been reports that after you dismiss the alert a bunch of times, the update will download and install no matter what. You really don't have nearly the control over Apple like you do with Android (or Linux). I personally don't want to be bothered either way. With my S20 FE and my Fire stick neither nag me one bit.
There have been reports that after you dismiss the alert a bunch of times, the update will download and install no matter what. You really don't have nearly the control over Apple like you do with Android (or Linux). I personally don't want to be bothered either way. With my S20 FE and my Fire stick neither nag me one bit.
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That’s what I like about being jailbroken, that I haven’t received a message asking me to update in months. The only way I can update is through iTunes. I can’t update over the air if I wanted to. I can’t even update to the latest WatchOS if I wanted to without updating my iPhone. I do have the annoying red badges for both my watch and phone.
I don't have either one on my S20 FE or my Galaxy Watch 3 or my Fire Stick or my laptop running Linux. Netguard No Root Firewall runs on my phone which basically cuts internet off to any system service or app I want, so 'Software Update' was first on the chopping block. There's a minimized notification saying 'Software Update: Download Failed!' in my notfication center but that's it. It can't download because Netguard has killed the internet to it. No nags, no issues. Watch can't update either for same reason, the service for watch updates also has been killed with that app.
Fire stick has a switch to turn updates off. Same for Linux. Choice is golden. I just want to use my stuff and be left alone, and not deal with unnecessary changes.
The only challenge was Firefox. I had to hack it with a enterprise policy *.json file but I managed to disable it checking for and nagging me about updates as well.
Fire stick has a switch to turn updates off. Same for Linux. Choice is golden. I just want to use my stuff and be left alone, and not deal with unnecessary changes.
The only challenge was Firefox. I had to hack it with a enterprise policy *.json file but I managed to disable it checking for and nagging me about updates as well.
All this you describe was true, until... iOS 13.6
Until iOS 13.6, and it has happened to me as well, sometimes it was inevitable to have the device updated. I remember one time when I clearly remember saying no, or cancel, and immediately the device rebooted and started the update.
Then, iOS 13.6 added an option, a toggle on Settings, to allow to download or not the update. If you have this turned off, the update won’t download or even ask for it. It really doesn’t bother you.
iOS 13.6 adds new toggle to automatically download future software updates - 9to5Mac
Apple is rolling out the second developer betas of iOS 13.6 and iPadOS 13.6 today. Included in the updates are...
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That's odd since I went as far as iOS14 on my 6S and every decimal update would still pop up that message I showed a screenshot of, only it'd be iOS 14.x.x is now available for your iPhone. It wouldn't auto download or install, but would still show the badge, and occasionally nag me. I ended up putting a tvOS beta profile on it to shut it up, but then decided the S20 FE was a better 'upgrade' and my last (I wanted wireless charging, a new watch with spO2, but the iPhone 13 and Series 6 weren't cutting the mold for me for various reasons)
I couldn't find any such solution for the Apple TV. Wake it up, pause video, sit too long at the homescreen, even with updates disabled (and blocked at the router--apparently Apple circumvented that!) it'd show that annoying update screen no matter what. At least the Fire TV Stick, for as unstable as it is at times, leaves me alone.
I couldn't find any such solution for the Apple TV. Wake it up, pause video, sit too long at the homescreen, even with updates disabled (and blocked at the router--apparently Apple circumvented that!) it'd show that annoying update screen no matter what. At least the Fire TV Stick, for as unstable as it is at times, leaves me alone.