Wow. Is forced diversity really necessary? Who cares what pictures Apple puts into their reports. Every page could have a creepy picture of Steve Jobs for all I care.
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Wow. Is forced diversity really necessary? Who cares what pictures Apple puts into their reports. Every page could have a creepy picture of Steve Jobs for all I care.
I am sorry Erik, but it's very bad reporting on your part to keep reiterating a rumor of a worker that purportedly lost a prototype iphone and his consequent suicide. As far as I know neither you not anyone has seen a police or psychiatrist's report on the nature of this affair, and thus as is, it's just a malicious rumor that need not be foolishly and irresponsibly reproduced ad nauseam.
Possibly as with the overwhelming majority of suicides the worker was depressed prior to the suicide and/or involved in industrial espionage. I am very sensitive to human tragedy so I don't want to speculate any further out of respect for the dead. France Telecom has had around, what, 40 suicides in the past 2 years, and suicide rates around the globe are on an all time high. This should put things in some perspective.
Life and death are a subject matter distinctly different than the latest fad or rumor in the tec world, and require tact and accuracy in reporting. Merely using qualifiers like "apparent" or "reportedly" doesn't add any justification in proliferating such a piece of information without any official reports on what actually took place.
Kudos to apple for taking a positive stance, few of the "model" businesses heralded by the press and the state do so in this cruel world.
Possibly as with the overwhelming majority of suicides the worker was depressed prior to the suicide and/or involved in industrial espionage. I am very sensitive to human tragedy so I don't want to speculate any further out of respect for the dead. France Telecom has had around, what, 40 suicides in the past 2 years, and suicide rates around the globe are on an all time high. This should put things in some perspective.
Life and death are a subject matter distinctly different than the latest fad or rumor in the tec world, and require tact and accuracy in reporting. Merely using qualifiers like "apparent" or "reportedly" doesn't add any justification in proliferating such a piece of information without any official reports on what actually took place.
Kudos to apple for taking a positive stance, few of the "model" businesses heralded by the press and the state do so in this cruel world.
I really wish -in this big trash bin that the web can be- that someone takes note of your (as per usual) garbage comments and holds you accountable for them. What makes you think you have the right to accuse anyone of allowing or covering up forced beatings on their employes? These are some of the gravest allegations and yet with characteristic ease you just pull them out of your head. Do you have any evidence for that, because since you so obviously do not, you are accountable for defamation here. I am actually very tempted (but I am not going to do it because I am not a snitch by nature) to have your post reported to apple. It won't be hard for them to get your ip and send you a nice letter by a lawyer.
Apple is a commercial company,no doubt. So by principle, it is evil, it wants to make money, and loves to make money, lots of it!
However, you can still treat those at the bottom better.... than lots of Taiwanese companies. At least from that famous iPhone factory girl picture, we can tell, at least there are happy workers in Apple's associated factories. Hope they will keep this tradition...
Actually this is one of the reason I keep on buying
Who said making money is evil?
Are you blind man or you just don't live in the USA. but seeing that you live in Cali you shouldent be so blind. Those jobs that Apple/companies gave to countrys over seas are higher paying then all of those fast food jobs you see around.
What do you think one of the major reasons why the USA's economy being in such a mess from ? this should be a easy one to answer, or that you dont care because you have a good paying job and you think your not effected.
And yes i do think that those jobs would be better over here in the USA. Those 133 thousand with a job over here is a hell allot better then 133 thousand without a job.
I am sorry EricinBoston, but I really failed to understand your points. Why are you offended? Is it the usual (and detestable) american political correctness? Would you want apple to have ethnically diverse pictures of workers while it employs via their subcontractors anything but ethnically diverse people? I actually found it very refreshing and frank how they used Asians in all the photos. If this is not the point you are making, excuse me in advance.
But I still don't know what your point is, how offensive it is for a big multinational to outsource their productions facilities to Asia? It's a global economy, what's so offensive in that?
Dude i feel you (but i am a white American), I have learned that you see complaining if your either running or walking. agreeing or disagreeing, helping or not.
Its BS i know. i wish people didnt complain over somethin as stupid as what race someone is in a picture. its down right stupid. some people just need to grow up or get a life.
And since China is where the majority of the plants are what do they expect to see. it boggles my mind on why people are this way.
You mean funding foreign wars without getting involved until the last minute?
Yay for American isolationism!
Just because you can't tell the difference between all the different Asians doesn't mean there isn't diversity.
...and then Apple will remotely smoke all your Apple products so you'll be forced to run only MS **** for the rest of your life.
Generally as its based on some form of exploitation..
Anyhow..
What is Apple's view on becoming or being a member of a union? Either as an Apple employee, or as a subcontractor. I'd guess a lot of their Asian manufacturing plants are strongly unionised, but how does that play?
If Apple are so 'understanding', so 'new age' and 'caring', my guess they've got no problem with the concept, but knowing how Nazi companies like McD's and Walmart are, I wouldn't be surprised if its a dirty word never spoken about in Apple circles...
The thing is, basically all Apple products are made in Asia. The photos could be made more diverse, just to make them more diverse. But the photos simply reflect the reality of who is building iPhones and Macs.
I'm not sure why anyone would take offense, these are not high skill jobs anyways. Why does it bother you? (I'm really asking) This is not an advertising piece, it's a document on Apple's suppliers.
I'm not sure why anyone would take offense, these are not high skill jobs anyways. Why does it bother you? (I'm really asking) This is not an advertising piece, it's a document on Apple's suppliers.
They would be higher paying than fast food jobs, if the jobs were located in the USA. But the actual amount they are paying these workers is much less than American minimum wage. Those 133,000 jobs would get whittled down to who knows what number if they were moved to the US, since iPhones and Macs would become much more expensive and sell in less numbers.
In the long run, free trade benefits everybody as a whole (but not all individuals, which we also cannot ignore.) The most obvious analogy is this- if aliens landed in Washington and gave everyone free energy, almost everyone would benefit but a lot of people would still lose their jobs. But there is still a net gain to our economy, enough that we hopefully help those who have lost work. Of course there are other factors too in the real world, such as environmental regulations that affect the big picture. I am fiscally conservative but socially liberal- I think a free market is the most efficient, but would like to think some of the extra gains of the free market can be used to help the displaced and disadvantaged.
The mess of the economy has many factors, but the largest have not to do with jobs moving overseas. The recent mess has had more to do with finance than labor. The US work force has changed in the past, and will probably change in the future. It used to be largely agricultural, then largely manufacturing, now it is largely service based. Before each shift, many were worried that suddenly there would not be enough jobs for everyone, but somehow we managed (for the most part.) I don't think anyone would benefit if we were still working on farms and did not have the benefits of industrial society. Of course we also have service jobs (call centers) going overseas too. It might seem unfair sometimes or stacked against USA labor. But all countries go through the same development process, cheap labor in the beginning that becomes more expensive as the country moves up the ladder. Taiwan used to be a cheap source for labor, now manufacturing is too expensive there and all the manufacturing jobs went to China (though many of the big OEM companies are Taiwanese.)
All that being said, it is not a given that all manufacturing jobs leave the USA. Many foreign auto companies have set up plants in the USA. These plants are economically feasible because they don't have the costs associated with old union agreements (whether those are good or bad or whatever is another issue.)
And BTW, unemployment in Cali is higher than the national average. Do you think we all just hang out at Starbucks on our iPhones?
In the long run, free trade benefits everybody as a whole (but not all individuals, which we also cannot ignore.) The most obvious analogy is this- if aliens landed in Washington and gave everyone free energy, almost everyone would benefit but a lot of people would still lose their jobs. But there is still a net gain to our economy, enough that we hopefully help those who have lost work. Of course there are other factors too in the real world, such as environmental regulations that affect the big picture. I am fiscally conservative but socially liberal- I think a free market is the most efficient, but would like to think some of the extra gains of the free market can be used to help the displaced and disadvantaged.
The mess of the economy has many factors, but the largest have not to do with jobs moving overseas. The recent mess has had more to do with finance than labor. The US work force has changed in the past, and will probably change in the future. It used to be largely agricultural, then largely manufacturing, now it is largely service based. Before each shift, many were worried that suddenly there would not be enough jobs for everyone, but somehow we managed (for the most part.) I don't think anyone would benefit if we were still working on farms and did not have the benefits of industrial society. Of course we also have service jobs (call centers) going overseas too. It might seem unfair sometimes or stacked against USA labor. But all countries go through the same development process, cheap labor in the beginning that becomes more expensive as the country moves up the ladder. Taiwan used to be a cheap source for labor, now manufacturing is too expensive there and all the manufacturing jobs went to China (though many of the big OEM companies are Taiwanese.)
All that being said, it is not a given that all manufacturing jobs leave the USA. Many foreign auto companies have set up plants in the USA. These plants are economically feasible because they don't have the costs associated with old union agreements (whether those are good or bad or whatever is another issue.)
And BTW, unemployment in Cali is higher than the national average. Do you think we all just hang out at Starbucks on our iPhones?
Excellent post.
That would probably be the best kind of punishment.
Yeah, I am. Now let me apply it according to your example that of making baseless accusations against other people, or companies, such as this guy did about apple allowing and promoting forced beatings on employes. See how you like this freedom of speech then: Hey Markcres, is you girlfriend recovering well? I heard you gave her a good beating yesterday. See, freedom of speech, making inflammatory and baseless accusations. How you like your definition of freedom of speech?
For now, enjoy the LOW price high end products from Apple
Could you please point me to where could I get some of those as well?